Floyd has turned the tables on Manny in their chessmatch

[Pacquiao'd]

Weight penalties aren't anything new in Boxing, OST is. Mayweather-Marquez had a weight penalty ($300K/lb) in a fight where Floyd was guaranteed $10 mil. Pacquiao-Marquez has a weight penalty ($1 mil/lb). Pacquiao-Floyd would be the most lucrative fight in history, would make sense for the weight penalty to be consistent and conmesurate with the money on the line.

Plus, Floyd already proved himself to be a cheater on the scales against Marquez so a weight penalty was at least justifiable. Pac had/has no links to PEDs whatsoever outside of tales spun by Floyd and his family.

Just sayin'

the commission determines weight penalties as well as test athletes. so its one in the same. if its ok for pac to "override" the commission with something as lubricious as a 10 mil per lbs penalty then something like OST which betters the sport and protects fighters is def something worth "overriding" the commissions control. well their arent being over-stepped at all; OST is just additional more thorough/stricter testing

OST is perfectly justifiable while 10 mil per lb simply is not. theres no way you can spin that, my friend...you just cant

[tangalog2200]

Weight penalties aren't anything new in Boxing, OST is. Mayweather-Marquez had a weight penalty ($300K/lb) in a fight where Floyd was guaranteed $10 mil. Pacquiao-Marquez has a weight penalty ($1 mil/lb). Pacquiao-Floyd would be the most lucrative fight in history, would make sense for the weight penalty to be consistent and conmesurate with the money on the line.

Plus, Floyd already proved himself to be a cheater on the scales against Marquez so a weight penalty was at least justifiable. Pac had/has no links to PEDs whatsoever outside of tales spun by Floyd and his family.

Just sayin'

well said and covers all the issues...

[Pacquiao'd]

Explain how Ortiz presents trouble to either Pac or Floyd but Bradley doesn't. Ortiz is the come forward plodder that Pac loves to fight according to you but the skilled boxer in Bradley, a style that Pac avoids at all costs apparently, would be an easier matchup?

At least try to be consistent

you have a thing for adding words to my post that i didnt type myself. why is that?

i said Ortiz was Margacheato, yeah, i get it now.

i dont need to break it down why bradley isnt a threat to pac or floyd. the reason why its a more legit fight than pacs last three is because bradley is young, up and coming, skillful and not shop worn or coming off losses. and eventhough hes a good technical boxer which pac has trouble with, hes not skilled enough for pac, doesnt have power and does nothing to trouble pac and floyd.

while ortiz is young, fast, big, strong, can punch, had a good chin, and moves his feet. his defense is really leaky but he has the tools and natural gifts to pull an upset on floyd or pac...kahn and bradley do not. nor do i think, once again, kahn or bradley can beat him

im being consistent. the inconsistencies lie in your mind where you keep adding things to my post that i didnt think nor type.

[tangalog2200]

time will always prove who was right in these arguments. level headed men are starting to see who was right and who was wrong. i wish the guys defending pac would just say f@ck it im supporting pac because were from the same country because thats obviously all it is.

not so........

what is really right knows no country......

ost is not right just so pbf asks for it in the guise of cleaning the sports......

ost is not right as you just don't go over the head of the sports authorities..

it is not right to accuse and defame without presenting any shred of evidence...

it is RIGHT to protect your name and your RIGHTS against malicious accusations and

it is right to bring your case on the proper forum/authorities....not just the media

[Walt Liquor]

And, there you have it.

L o ***n l!!!!!!!!!!!!! Yessir came in with perfect timing.

Bradley is a legit fight. I think victor carries the weoght better but bradley would be at home vs a small ww in manny.

[Reloaded]

not so........

what is really right knows no country......

ost is not right just so pbf asks for it in the guise of cleaning the sports......

ost is not right as you just don't go over the head of the sports authorities..

it is not right to accuse and defame without presenting any shred of evidence...

it is RIGHT to protect your name and your RIGHTS against malicious accusations and

it is right to bring your case on the proper forum/authorities....not just the media

OST is not right you say but saying NO to it in the richest fight ever is right even though current testing used in boxing is known to be one of weakest testing regimes in Pro sport , what world you live in kid because the real one will eat you alive , to think cheating is above anyone with so much to gain is as gullible as *** .

[Walt Liquor]

Meh...It's what you get when ****riders/haters like Yesir and Eastbay Giant form an opinion on the internet.

Using Eastbay Giant logic as to why the fight is ****. Then Ortiz-Maywather is **** as well I mean using his ****** ass logic. Which would be ridiculous to say.

It is what it is bro.

But we made it through about 35 pages before the invasion. Im impressed, there were a few that tried to raid the thread but they were quickly dismissed.

[mushahadeen]

**** chess. just get the fight signed ****.

[big_james10]

Sorry Walt, there's no way this doesn't turn into a flame thread if anyone pays attention to it. I guess we could just ignore those people.

Floyd is definitely turning things around on Pacquiao IMO, and it's pretty much only because of Pacquiao's choice of opponents. It's hard to defend Pacquiao not manning up and taking the tests going on a year and a half later now when he is fighting such terrible fights.

I agree with you about the flame thread and Pac's opponents. Since his last fight with Marquez, Pac has not fought any opponent who was on his way up in the rankings and has always failed to fight the best opponent available to him at the time. In addition to Mayweather, he could have fought Bradley, Mosley (after he KO'd Margarito), Berto when he was undefeated, Paul Williams before the loss to Martinez, Victor Ortiz (after he beat Berto) or Martinez (instead of Margarito at 154). These were the best opponents available to him and he only fought one when that one of them (Mosley) after it was obvious that Mosley was faded.


To put this in perspective, in the last three years, Pac could have chosen a stretch limousine, or a brand new Bentley, Corvette, Cadillac, Lexus, or Mercedes. Instead, he has consistently chosen a Mo-ped.

[Walt Liquor]

At this point, I couldn't care less if the Floyd-Pacquiao fight happen. But they both must step up and test themselves more by fighting Boxers who can at least force them to work harder than they usually do, and just make their level of competitions more advance.

Pfp305 coming strong....... Green owed.