Floyd has turned the tables on Manny in their chessmatch

[Eastbay Giant]

Before we start using the word "Hatin' loosely, understand Bradley has 11 Ko's only fought at Ww once, is 5'5-5'6, and gets hit a lot. Unless you consider his counter punching skills on the level of a Mayweather or Marquez, what threat does he present?

And cut the BS about Floyd and Pac not needing each other, because if they never fight, and MMA becomes the prominent combat sport their legacies go down the drain. They'll be remembered as the fighters who killed boxing's last bit of popularity instead of enhancing it.

Tim Bradley...

[The Big Dunn]

I'm sorry if you're ****tin and are against Mayweather-Ortiz that must mean you're a ****rider or a hatter.

Because, I can't see how any logical fan would be against Mayweather-Ortiz...Can you?

The point isn't whether anyone agrees with it or not. The point is if they don't it doesn't mean they are necessarily a ****rider.

Reasonable boxing fans do not always agree on things. Bottom line is this thread went 30 + pages with no *****, ****rider, ******* bs. Lets just keep it that way.

[Carpe Diem]

At this point, I couldn't care less if the Floyd-Pacquiao fight happen. But they both must step up and test themselves more by fighting Boxers who can at least force them to work harder than they usually do, and just make their level of competitions more advance.

[brick wall]

Did you read any of the previous posts. I pointed out that manny is getting hated (to makavelli) because of some of his policy initiatives. I believe most filipinos would question the testing agency as opposed to manny. I do not think he will be hated for it, particulalrly if he is successful in championing causes people get behind.

If you disagree, particulalrly in light of his 1st loss, fine.

so you think he can get hated for his policy initiatives but not if he gets caught using banned substances? that is so moronic...using illegal substance is a much much serious offense than having unpopular political stand. in fact having poor policy inintiatives is not a crime but using peds is.

anyway, this is the last time i'll acknowledge you in this thread. you're dragging me down.

[The Big Dunn]

Before we start using the word "Hatin' loosely, understand Bradley has 11 Ko's only fought at Ww once, is 5'5-5'6, and gets hit a lot. Unless you consider his counter punching skills on the level of a Mayweather or Marquez, what threat does he present?

And cut the BS about Floyd and Pac not needing each other, because if they never fight, and MMA becomes the prominent combat sport their legacies go down the drain. They'll be remembered as the fighters who killed boxing's last bit of popularity instead of enhancing it.

Tim Bradley...

IMO, Bradley not being a threat to Manny (which I agree with jrosale13 you are crazy to think he isnt) is more about Manny's greatness than Bradley's lack of skill. Same with floyd and ortiz.

[The Big Dunn]

so you think he can get hated for his policy initiatives but not if he gets caught using banned substances? that is so moronic...using illegal substance is a much much serious offense than having unpopular political stand. in fact having poor policy inintiatives is not a crime but using peds is.

anyway, this is the last time i'll acknowledge you in this thread. you're dragging me down.

as soon as the nuthuggers like ThePrince and brick_wall showed up I can see this thread went to crap

Am I really the problem?

[jrosales13]

The point isn't whether anyone agrees with it or not. The point is if they don't it doesn't mean they are necessarily a ****rider.

Reasonable boxing fans do not always agree on things. Bottom line is this thread went 30 + pages with no *****, ****rider, ******* bs. Lets just keep it that way.

Reasonable fans don't have to agree. But, reasonable boxing fans won't **** and be against legit fights. The ones that do are being ****riders or haters.

Name me a reasonable fan who is against Mayweather-Ortiz?

I can name people like Check Hooks, Strugg, and posters of that ilk that are bashing that fight. But, they're not reasonable fans, they're ****riding hating fans, are they not?

Again name one reasonable poster on here that's against Mayweather-Ortiz.

Again reasonable fans can disagree, on who's better, on what the outcome would be, on how it would be play out. on who's to blame of whatever. But, reasonable fans won't **** and be against legit fights.

[Carpe Diem]

Reasonable fans don't have to agree. But, reasonable boxing fans won't **** and be against legit fights. The ones that do are being ****riders or haters.

Name me a reasonable fan who is against Mayweather-Ortiz?

I can name people like Check Hooks, Strugg, and posters of that ilk that are bashing that fight. But, they're not reasonable fans, they're ****riding hating fans, are they not?

Again name one reasonable poster on here that's against Mayweather-Ortiz.

Again reasonable fans can disagree, on who's better, on what the outcome would be, on how it would be play out. on who's to blame of whatever. But, reasonable fans won't **** and be against legit fights.

[Eastbay Giant]

Besides age and speed, Bradley is a determinded fighter that has composure, some ring smarts and fights hard. Bradley right now is undefeated so he doesn't know how to lose or have a limit he has been pushed to where he knows its nothing he can do. Most of all Bradley WANTS PBF and Manny spots in boxing so he is going to bring it IMO. Bradley is not stationary, a plodder or gonna try walk Manny down with his fists down by his chest and chin up like Hatton. Bradley has above average overall boxing skills which is something Manny has not faced since Marquez.

You make some solid statements, but imo Pacquiao fighting Bradley next is a pass fans are willing to give dude instead of demanding the Floyd fight. Either Pacquiao or Mayweather could fight Bradley/Khan after they face each other. Floyd fighting Khan after Ortiz would be the same thing as Pacquiao/Bradley. They need to settle this ongoing debate asap, and then move forward.

Otherwise, people won't truly care anymore and that;s bad for the sport.

[The Big Dunn]

Reasonable fans don't have to agree. But, reasonable boxing fans won't **** and be against legit fights. The ones that do are being ****riders or haters.

Name me a reasonable fan who is against Mayweather-Ortiz?

I can name people like Check Hooks, Strugg, and posters of that ilk that are bashing that fight. But, they're not reasonable fans, they're ****riding hating fans, are they not?

Again name one reasonable poster on here that's against Mayweather-Ortiz.

Again reasonable fans can disagree, on who's better, on what the outcome would be, on how it would be play out. on who's to blame of whatever. But, reasonable fans won't **** and be against legit fights.

Like I said to eastbay, I think he is crazy to think manny bradley isn't legit if it happens. But that doesn't always mean you are a ****rider.

If you think floyd ortiz isn't legit because floyd is a 6-1 favorite I can understand the logic but I disagree. If you question JMM pac 3 because its at 147 and not 140 or 135 I can undertsnad that too.