Floyd has turned the tables on Manny in their chessmatch

[tredh]

Before we start using the word "Hatin' loosely, understand Bradley has 11 Ko's only fought at Ww once, is 5'5-5'6, and gets hit a lot. Unless you consider his counter punching skills on the level of a Mayweather or Marquez, what threat does he present?

And cut the BS about Floyd and Pac not needing each other, because if they never fight, and MMA becomes the prominent combat sport their legacies go down the drain. They'll be remembered as the fighters who killed boxing's last bit of popularity instead of enhancing it.

Tim Bradley...

You saying the bold to say what? By KO is not the only way to beat Manny or any fighter. Bradley has enough skills, movement, legs and stamina where even if Manny doesn't respect his power Bradley can still do things where Manny can't just come forward easily and walk him down. Even if that is Bradley height that means he is the same height as Manny. Bradley isn't weak Manny not gonna just push him around the ring. Besides Manny is not a rough house bully type of fighter.

If you don't like the fight cool but talking about the lack of KO's, 1 fight at 147 and height are not reasons why its not a good fight.

[Carpe Diem]

Before we start using the word "Hatin' loosely, understand Bradley has 11 Ko's only fought at Ww once, is 5'5-5'6, and gets hit a lot. Unless you consider his counter punching skills on the level of a Mayweather or Marquez, what threat does he present?

And cut the BS about Floyd and Pac not needing each other, because if they never fight, and MMA becomes the prominent combat sport their legacies go down the drain. They'll be remembered as the fighters who killed boxing's last bit of popularity instead of enhancing it.

Tim Bradley...

But it would still be a good fight regardless. He may not be as fundamentally crafty as Floyd[Who is currently?] and Marquez are, but he has done enough to try to test himself against Boxing's current P4P best. Can he beat Manny? No way. Can he exploit some of Manny's fundamental flaws? Absolutely.

[tredh]

You make some solid statements, but imo Pacquiao fighting Bradley next is a pass fans are willing to give dude instead of demanding the Floyd fight. Either Pacquiao or Mayweather could fight Bradley/Khan after they face each other. Floyd fighting Khan after Ortiz would be the same thing as Pacquiao/Bradley. They need to settle this ongoing debate asap, and then move forward.

Otherwise, people won't truly care anymore and that;s bad for the sport.

I agree they need to fight but if they don't fight. Bradley is a good option for either fighter. Khan may have more speed and power than Bradley but overall right now I think Bradley is a much more well rounded fighter than Khan. I also think Bradley ring IQ is better than Khan and is mentally tougher than Khan. I like Khan but something about him to me doesn't seem like he is the real deal just yet if ever.

[Carpe Diem]

You make some solid statements, but imo Pacquiao fighting Bradley next is a pass fans are willing to give dude instead of demanding the Floyd fight. Either Pacquiao or Mayweather could fight Bradley/Khan after they face each other. Floyd fighting Khan after Ortiz would be the same thing as Pacquiao/Bradley. They need to settle this ongoing debate asap, and then move forward.

Otherwise, people won't truly care anymore and that;s bad for the sport.

Totally agree. All we can do as fans is hope that the fight can somehow happen. At the same time, we can force their hands by not paying for their ****ty fights. Both of them need to find a way to make it work.

[Carpe Diem]

i kno it is hard to comprehend on your caliber of thinking that everytime pac has confirmed fight, floyd will comes out from his hibernating mode. can't blame you mate if you have a lmited brain cells..

Saying and doing are two different things. If he has indeed completely agreed, then what's the hold up? Put it in the contract and call out Floyd's so-called bluff. The US reporters won't even ask him about it. Pac hasn't confirmed anything. He only told his people[don't like that term] exactly what they wants to hear, but will he show it by signing the contract to make it legit? Mosley and Ortiz has confirmed it, not Pacquiao.

[Pacquiao'd]

Meh...It's what you get when ****riders/haters like Yesir and Eastbay Giant form an opinion on the internet.

Using Eastbay Giant logic as to why the fight is ****. Then Ortiz-Maywather is **** as well I mean using his ****** ass logic. Which would be ridiculous to say.

It is what it is bro.

shut the hell up you little twerp. itwouldnt want to see floyd fight bradley either. i much rather either them fight Ortiz over bradley...floyd is on that already but i believe i read one of your post stating that you felt Bradley and Con are better than Ortiz...well, i disagree

ortiz is more of a threatto pac and floyd than kahn and bradley

[ThePrince]

shut the hell up you little twerp. itwouldnt want to see floyd fight bradley either. i much rather either them fight Ortiz over bradley...floyd is on that already but i believe i read one of your post stating that you felt Bradley and Con are better than Ortiz...well, i disagree

ortiz is more of a threat is any to pac and floyd than con and bradley

Based on what exactly?

It was only a few months ago that all 3 were in the same division, whereas Bradley and Khan were ranked #1 and 2 respectively, Ortiz was #7. Guy gave his soul to Maidana in only 6 rounds, Khan beat Chino. Ortiz could only muster a draw against Peterson, Bradley won an easy lopsided decision. But because Ortiz beat a completely overrated and untested Berto, he's better than Bradley and Khan?

[Pacquiao'd]

Based on what exactly?

It was only a few months ago that all 3 were in the same division, whereas Bradley and Khan were ranked #1 and 2 respectively, Ortiz was #7. Guy gave his soul to Maidana in only 6 rounds, Khan beat Chino. Ortiz could only muster a draw against Peterson, Bradley won an easy lopsided decision. But because Ortiz beat a completely overrated and untested Berto, he's better than Bradley and Khan?

well,

1. it looks like 140 was wrong for ortiz.
2. what does bradley do to trouble pac or floyd? pressure? i cant think of anything.
3. Did you not see kahns last outing?
4. Devon has shown to be quite a bit overhyped
5. triangle theories dont work.
6. Yes i believe Ortiz would handle both Kahn and Bradley

[junior gong]

Not trying to flame it out in here, just have an adult discussion.

There's so mich to type, so im going to start with my main point.

1) manny had an edge in the beginning because floyd looked scared by forcing ost. Regardless of what fools who cant comprehend the big picture think, this is how the move was percieved and perception is reality. It doesnt take a genius to spin that story.

2) rumors circulate that manny agreed to floyds Demands with a cut off date, but its all heresay because they never made azhuge deal about it or publicly said (manny himself) that they would do anything to get floyd in the ring. This began to make manny look weak imo.

3) he continues to look weak by fighting arum retreads who have no business being in ppv's with manny.

4) floyd swoops in and fights the best ww not named floyd or manny and takes on a young gun who's hungry and badass at 147 while manny fights a
dude floyd shut out that is alreAdy probably fighting one weight class to high at lw. So he's a minimum of 2 weight classes out of his league.

All that adds up to floyd outplaying manny and bob. Bob was content to just take advantage of manny's fans and his reputation while floyd was biding his time and waiting to pull a checkmate type move.

Who the *** is manny gonna fight if he and floyd win? Khan is trained by roach so floyd has him. I guess its gonna have to be bradley who looked as out of place at ww as hatton did to me when he moved up. We know neither floyd nor manny is going to even glance in sergio's direction, so there's no one at 154.

I dont think so. This so called chess match has been a stalemate from the get go. It doesnt matter how much of this bs happens in between, none of these guys is gonna fight for a cent less than half of everything.

[Carpe Diem]

Wtf does this have to do with boxing?

Posters like you make no sense and should be banned from this site.