Comments Thread For: Merchant on Mayweather-Ortiz, Pacquiao-Marquez, More

[WalkerSmith1921]

LOL @ "my boy" Why is he "my boy" because I got him on my sig?

Elaborate more on the "suspect" of Clottey and Cotto.

Mosley, Marg, and now JMM is garbage. How am I refuting that? I even stated earlier in this thread. That' this Pac 3rd garbage fight in a row while Floyd is taking on a legit fight.

Read what I post before replying. Use your head, the mind is a terrible thing to waste.

And, none of that takes away the fact that Floyd-Judah should never have happened after Judah lost and gave such a pathetic performance against a journeyman.

Elaborating time: By suspect I mean to say that I really don't think the fights were legit enough to warrant a match in the first place and also hence my nickname which you say is childish Packing to me is meaning that I think the dude is juicing like already posted to you but you didn't read it!! Why will this guy continue to avoid the likes of (before he lost) Berto, Mosley (when Mosley first called him out) plus I think that Mosley was bought out as in not putting everything into his fight against Packing.

Why would Packing wait this long to have the trilogy fight against Marquez and at a higher weight when he had 2 very close fights that couldv'e went to either fighter as the lower divisions. Why would he have Cotto to lose weight? I have too many questions against this guy to ever take him serious and I will also go on record to say that, I think he is being protected!! It seems obvious to me so sorry but there you have it.

[megas30]

WTF are you talking about? Who's Packing? Is that suppose to be Pacquiao? And, what's your point?

Judah lost to a journeyman, end of...There's nothing else to be said. How can the "unified, undisputed, champ" give a good count of himself against a journeyman? That was an awful shameful performance on judah part. No excuses, he lost to a journeyman nuff said.

While i agree with Jrosales13 about Judah losing to a journeyman, it was also widely known that the fight with Mayweather fight was already in the bag. I remember Judah was complaining that Don had him promoting the Mayweather fight and he ended up overlooking Baldomir.

[WalkerSmith1921]

Are you talking about a Shane Mosley that came off a 18 month layoff since the Margerito fight or the Shane Mosely that trained 12 weeks for the Berto fight before it was called of then had to turn around and train another 12 weeks for your boy Mayweather. Mayweather didn't do anything special to Mosely that Sergio Mora or Pacquiao didn't do to him. At least Pacquiao got a KNOCK DOWN. Lol!!!

Mayweather fought a Mosley that wasn't coming off a lost for starters. Pacquiao got a knock down but to what extent? Mosley went into that fight to get paid rather than to really try to win it. So laugh now buy you will cry later when Packing gets caught or exposed because it will happen at some time!!! Plus Clottey wasn't fighting to win his fight against Manny Packing but he still put knots all upside his head. Now I am lol. LOL

[jrosales13]

Elaborating time: By suspect I mean to say that I really don't think the fights were legit enough to warrant a match in the first place and also hence my nickname which you say is childish Packing to me is meaning that I think the dude is juicing like already posted to you but you didn't read it!! Why will this guy continue to avoid the likes of (before he lost) Berto, Mosley (when Mosley first called him out) plus I think that Mosley was bought out as in not putting everything into his fight against Packing.

Why would Packing wait this long to have the trilogy fight against Marquez and at a higher weight when he had 2 very close fights that couldv'e went to either fighter as the lower divisions. Why would he have Cotto to lose weight? I have too many questions against this guy to ever take him serious and I will also go on record to say that, I think he is being protected!! It seems obvious to me so sorry but there you have it.

It wouldn't hurt to do a little research...The question should be why did JMM wait so long to have the trilogy?

I love the contradiction of Cotto and Clottey not being legit enough to warrant matches. But, Floyd-Judah on the other hand...

I did read what you said, hence why I gave more nicknames and said how ****** it is... But, whatever...To each his own.

LOl @ being bought and fix. OK....

The only naive and ignorant one here is you sir.

So lets summarize. Pac is a juicer, who is protected, cherrypicker, and only wins cuz' the fights are fixed and opponents are bought of, Clottey and Cotto not legit but Floyd-Judah...OK, good stuff

[jrosales13]

While i agree with Jrosales13 about Judah losing to a journeyman, it was also widely known that the fight with Mayweather fight was already in the bag. I remember Judah was complaining that Don had him promoting the Mayweather fight and he ended up overlooking Baldomir.

*sigh*

At the end of the day he didn't have to fight Zab Judah. The fight was agreed upon, but nothing was signed. After Judah lost to Baldomir. Both Margarito and Spinks were options to fight Floyd. Then Judah mention he would take even less money to what was agreed upon. While Arum didn't think the Spinks fight could sell. And, for some reason Floyd wanted no part of Marg. That they still went with Judah.

But, they didn't have to fight Judah after the lose. There is no excuse for that fight to happen after Judah lost to a damn journeyman. There was other options out there.

[jrosales13]

Pac fought Mosley just like Floyd fought Judah and Baldo. Problem is, Baldo was the Champion, Judah was a title holder. Mosley? Not so much. Yet I see where your going with this but your missing the point. Mosley had no title nor was he a champion. He was a former champion that hasn't won a fight since January of 2009 and its not like Pac just moved up to fight a 39 year old Mosley either. Floyd walked in to 147 no catchweights and beat 2 out of the Top 3. You cant say that about Pac can you?

Anyway the boxing community wanted Floyd Judah. Its not Floyd's fought he lost to Baldo. Floyd fought both and as you can see, some of the boxing community STILL wasn't happy. Nothing will change either when Pac agrees to testing and Floyd and him fight. The boxing community won't happy. It is what it is. If you followed Floyd long enough you would know it.

That's all I had to read...You have a good day sir.

I swear Floyd extremist fans are just as pathetic as Pac extremist fans.

Fucking excuses after excuse for bullshit ass fights.

[WalkerSmith1921]

It wouldn't hurt to do a little research...The question should be why did JMM wait so long to have the trilogy?

I love the contradiction of Cotto and Clottey not being legit enough to warrant matches. But, Floyd-Judah on the other hand...

I did read what you said, hence why I gave more nicknames and said how ****** it is... But, whatever...To each his own.

LOl @ being bought and fix. OK....

The only naive and ignorant one here is you sir.

So lets summarize. Pac is a juicer, who is protected, cherrypicker, and only wins cuz' the fights are fixed and opponents are bought of, Clottey and Cotto not legit but Floyd-Judah...OK, good stuff

It wouldn't hurt to do a little research. I don't have to do research it's all in my memory. The question should be why did JMM wait so long to have the trilogy? I disagree because JMM always wanted the fight stop making excuses for Manny. As far as Floyd vs Judah is concerned I am not defending the fight but like Grustler already explained to you, the match was already made before the Baldimor fight!
You're right to each his own because you are not as boxing savy as you think. I am not naive or ignorant so speak for yourself. In the past I tried giving you the benefit of the doubt but I see that it wasn't the case when it comes to you. You really are as advertised!!!

[jrosales13]

It wouldn't hurt to do a little research. I don't have to do research it's all in my memory. The question should be why did JMM wait so long to have the trilogy? I disagree because JMM always wanted the fight stop making excuses for Manny. As far as Floyd vs Judah is concerned I am not defending the fight but like Grustler already explained to you, the match was already made before the Baldimor fight!
You're right to each his own because you are not as boxing savy as you think. I am not naive or ignorant so speak for yourself. In the past I tried giving you the benefit of the doubt but I see that it wasn't the case when it comes to you. You really are as advertised!!!

If JMM always wanted to fight Pac. Then why did he turn down 750k to fight for 75k in Indonesia? When Pac-Floyd fail though cuz' of OST. Why did JMM demand 50/50 split and OST when he knew that why the Pac-Floyd fight fail though? Who's making excuses here?

And, no Grustler is wrong(like usual) the Floyd-Judah fight was not set in stone. Floyd could have picked someone else. Hence why he wanted to fight Spinks instead. And, it was almost done until Judah said he would take even less money.

I'm not giving you the benefit of the doubt. You're a disgrace to your username

[megas30]

I personally felt Judah had no business losing to Baldomir, and Bald only became a champ as a result of Zab's carelessness. Baldomir was never a champ in essence, but a man who holds a belt. I love the fact that people say Mosley came off back to back camps and had long lay-off ignoring the fact Floyd did as well.

The thing people also ignore is that both Mosley and Baldomir fights were pushed on Floyd by the media circus, who according to Floyd, always try to build up someone to beat him. I remember Brian Kenny was always harassing the guy that he was avoiding Baldomir and Mosley. I remember him going after Manny and Arum saying that Mosley is the one he should go after and he would never take that fight with Mosley because he's scared to lose. Boy, how time fly or people just have selective memory when it comes to this kid.

[jrosales13]

I personally felt Judah had no business losing to Baldomir, and Bald only became a champ as a result of Zab's carelessness. Baldomir was never a champ in essence, but a man who holds a belt. I love the fact that people say Mosley came off back to back camps and had long lay-off ignoring the fact Floyd did as well.

The thing people also ignore is that both Mosley and Baldomir fights were pushed on Floyd by the media circus, who according to Floyd, always try to build up someone to beat him. I remember Brian Kenny was always harassing the guy that he was avoiding Baldomir and Mosley. I remember him going after Manny and Arum saying that Mosley is the one he should go after and he would never take that fight with Mosley because he's scared to lose. Boy, how time fly or people just have selective memory when it comes to this kid.

The Baldo fight doesn't bother me. Even though I felt the marg was the better choice. He was the much better fighter. Baldomir couldn't hold Margarito jockstrap. And, the Mosley fight doesn't bother me for Floyd. I give Floyd credit. It was a legit fight.

But, don't try to sell the Judah fight on me. That fight shouldn't of happened after Judah lost to a journeyman. It was a whack decision by Floyd to go on with that fight.

And, the excuses I'm hearing is that Judah was ranked. Where so was Mosley when he fought Pac. Doesn't take away from that fight being straight garbage that shouldn't of happened.

Of that Judah had a title...But, that's because Baldomir didn't pay the sanctioning fee. Like really why even mention this?

It's the excuses on why garbage fight gets made are ridiculous.