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  • #21
    Originally posted by jrosales13 View Post


    WTF are you talking about? Who's Packing? Is that suppose to be Pacquiao? And, what's your point?

    Judah lost to a journeyman, end of...There's nothing else to be said. How can the "unified, undisputed, champ" give a good count of himself against a journeyman? That was an awful shameful performance on judah part. No excuses, he lost to a journeyman nuff said.
    Judah lost to the same fighter that later gave the late Vernon Forrest a good fight. Everybody that knows boxing should know that Judah was called a front runner for a reason. Some nights he will have fights like he had in the second Corey Spinks fight like a rejuvenated fighter; and some other nights he have bad fights (that's who he is) but to defend a fighter who I call Packing; hence the name Packing Steriods until otherwise proven wrong, for continuously fighting against fighters that have lost and looked bad in their previous fights is beyond me. Nuff said. and stop repeating me!! Gave a good count against Mayweather the best fighter pound for pound and not against Baldimor!!!
    Last edited by WalkerSmith1921; 06-25-2011, 10:35 AM. Reason: add on

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    • #22
      Originally posted by WalkerSmith1921 View Post
      Judah lost to the same fighter that later gave the late Vernon Forrest a good fight. Everybody that knows boxing should know that Judah was called a front runner for a reason. Some nights he will have fights like he had in the second Corey Spinks fight like a rejuvenated fighter; and some other nights he have bad fights (that's who he is) but to defend a fighter who I call Packing; hence the name Packing Steriods until otherwise proven wrong, for continuously fighting against fighters that have lost and looked bad in their previous fights is beyond me. Nuff said. and stop repeating me!! Gave a good count against Mayweather the best fighter pound for pound and not against Baldimor!!!
      Who's defending Packing, Pacroid, bitchquiao or whatever idiotic name you want to call him?

      I mean really bro how old are you?

      Lets have a mature convo.

      The Floyd-Judah fight should have never taken place after Judah gave that pathetic performance against a journeyman.

      Baldomir is/was a journeyman at best. At best. that's all he was. His record and resume speaks for itself.

      And, is not like Baldomir was an Agustus type. Agustus was a fighter who was better than he's record indicated. Baldomir was just as good as his record indicated.

      There's no excuse for Floyd to have fought Judah after Judah lost to Baldo. None, losing to a damn journeyman? Nuff' said.

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      • #23
        Originally posted by WalkerSmith1921 View Post
        v.cassiusali; dude you are very childish calling Mayweather chicken when it's your lover Manny Pacman (Packing Steriods) who was scared to take the test and will never fight anyone other than older shot fighters who had already lost and looked bad in their last fights; while Money Mayweather fights and beats a Mosley who had just dominated an Margarito or an Ortiz who had just dominated a young undefeated Andre Berto!! Dude get a life and a new nickname for yourfelf because you are nothing like cassius clay/muhammad ali!

        You call Marquez a cry baby, but that so-called cry baby beat Packing Steriods once and gave him a hell of a time the other fight which could have went to either fighter!!!! Packing will not fight a young live opponent coming off a good or a dominant win.
        Are you talking about a Shane Mosley that came off a 18 month layoff since the Margerito fight or the Shane Mosely that trained 12 weeks for the Berto fight before it was called of then had to turn around and train another 12 weeks for your boy Mayweather. Mayweather didn't do anything special to Mosely that Sergio Mora or Pacquiao didn't do to him. At least Pacquiao got a KNOCK DOWN. Lol!!!

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        • #24
          Originally posted by jrosales13 View Post
          Who's defending Packing, Pacroid, bitchquiao or whatever idiotic name you want to call him?

          I mean really bro how old are you?

          Lets have a mature convo.

          The Floyd-Judah fight should have never taken place after Judah gave that pathetic performance against a journeyman.

          Baldomir is/was a journeyman at best. At best. that's all he was. His record and resume speaks for itself.

          And, is not like Baldomir was an Agustus type. Agustus was a fighter who was better than he's record indicated. Baldomir was just as good as his record indicated.

          There's no excuse for Floyd to have fought Judah after Judah lost to Baldo. None, losing to a damn journeyman? Nuff' said.

          GTFOH..... you know better.....

          As of Jan 12th 2006, The Ring Magazine Welterweight rankings were....

          WELTERWEIGHTS
          Weight Limit: 147 pounds
          Champ: CARLOS BALDOMIR Argentina 42-9-6 (12)
          1. ANTONIO MARGARITO Mexico 32-4 (23)
          2. ZAB JUDAH Brooklyn, NY 34-3 (25)
          3. CORY SPINKS St. Louis, MO 34-3 (11)
          4. SHANE MOSLEY Pomona, CA 41-4 (35)
          5. LUIS COLLAZO Queens, NY 26-1 (12)
          6. THOMAS DAMGAARD Denmark 37-0 (27)
          7. KERMIT CINTRON Reading, PA 25-1 (23)
          8. JOSE ANTONIO RIVERA Worcester, MA 37-4-1(24)
          9. OKTAY URKAL Germany 36-3 (11)
          10. DAVID ESTRADA Chicago, IL 18-2 (9)

          Mayweather was ranked #1 P4P at this time and came UP INTO the WW division and beat 2 of the top 3 guys right off the bat.

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          • #25
            Originally posted by jrosales13 View Post
            Who's defending Packing, Pacroid, bitchquiao or whatever idiotic name you want to call him?

            I mean really bro how old are you?

            Lets have a mature convo.

            The Floyd-Judah fight should have never taken place after Judah gave that pathetic performance against a journeyman.

            Baldomir is/was a journeyman at best. At best. that's all he was. His record and resume speaks for itself.

            And, is not like Baldomir was an Agustus type. Agustus was a fighter who was better than he's record indicated. Baldomir was just as good as his record indicated.

            There's no excuse for Floyd to have fought Judah after Judah lost to Baldo. None, losing to a damn journeyman? Nuff' said.
            My convo isn't mature enough for you? You are only refuting every bad fight that Packing (Manny) is taking by trying to take away from the Judah fight. Name the last decent fight that your boy had!! All these fights were suspect to me: Clottey, Cotto, Mosley, Margarito should I go on? Because we can have back and forth about this all day if you want, but the fact is I will be heard. I have been in this sport since the 70's guy!!! If you're going by your logic then all of Manny's fights since Marquez shouldn't have taken place!!
            Last edited by WalkerSmith1921; 06-25-2011, 10:55 AM.

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            • #26
              Originally posted by WESS View Post
              GTFOH..... you know better.....

              As of Jan 12th 2006, The Ring Magazine Welterweight rankings were....

              WELTERWEIGHTS
              Weight Limit: 147 pounds
              Champ: CARLOS BALDOMIR Argentina 42-9-6 (12)
              1. ANTONIO MARGARITO Mexico 32-4 (23)
              2. ZAB JUDAH Brooklyn, NY 34-3 (25)
              3. CORY SPINKS St. Louis, MO 34-3 (11)
              4. SHANE MOSLEY Pomona, CA 41-4 (35)
              5. LUIS COLLAZO Queens, NY 26-1 (12)
              6. THOMAS DAMGAARD Denmark 37-0 (27)
              7. KERMIT CINTRON Reading, PA 25-1 (23)
              8. JOSE ANTONIO RIVERA Worcester, MA 37-4-1(24)
              9. OKTAY URKAL Germany 36-3 (11)
              10. DAVID ESTRADA Chicago, IL 18-2 (9)

              Mayweather was ranked #1 P4P at this time and came UP INTO the WW division and beat 2 of the top 3 guys right off the bat.
              Well where was Mosley ranked at WW when Pac fought him? By that same publication where was Mosley rank when Pac fought him?

              Should Pac have fought Mosley because of where Mosley was ranked?

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              • #27
                Originally posted by WalkerSmith1921 View Post
                My convo isn't mature enough for you? You are only refuting every bad fight that Packing (Manny) is taking by trying to take away from the Judah fight. Name the last decent fight that your boy had!! All these fights were suspect to me: Clottey, Cotto, Mosley, Margarito should I go on? Because we can have back and forth about this all day if you want, but the fact is I will be heard. I have been in this sport since the 70's guy!!!
                LOL @ "my boy" Why is he "my boy" because I got him on my sig?

                Elaborate more on the "suspect" of Clottey and Cotto.

                Mosley, Marg, and now JMM is garbage. How am I refuting that? I even stated earlier in this thread. That' this Pac 3rd garbage fight in a row while Floyd is taking on a legit fight.

                Read what I post before replying. Use your head, the mind is a terrible thing to waste.

                And, none of that takes away the fact that Floyd-Judah should never have happened after Judah lost and gave such a pathetic performance against a journeyman.

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                • #28
                  Originally posted by WalkerSmith1921 View Post
                  Because Judah was young and a much better look than Baldimor who won because Judah had a bad night!!! Who also gave a very good count of himself before losing. What kind of fight did Clottey, Cotto, Mosley and the old farts give to Packing!
                  Clottey and Cotto beat the **** out of Judah!!!!

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                  • #29
                    Originally posted by jrosales13 View Post


                    WTF are you talking about? Who's Packing? Is that suppose to be Pacquiao? And, what's your point?

                    Judah lost to a journeyman, end of...There's nothing else to be said. How can the "unified, undisputed, champ" give a good count of himself against a journeyman? That was an awful shameful performance on judah part. No excuses, he lost to a journeyman nuff said.
                    Another ****** ass name 'PACKING' HAHAHA now the pacquiao gambits r Gina make it PAC-KING HAHAHA

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                    • #30
                      Originally posted by jrosales13 View Post
                      Well where was Mosley ranked at WW when Pac fought him? By that same publication where was Mosley rank when Pac fought him?

                      Should Pac have fought Mosley because of where Mosley was ranked?
                      Pac fought Mosley just like Floyd fought Judah and Baldo. Problem is, Baldo was the Champion, Judah was a title holder. Mosley? Not so much. Yet I see where your going with this but your missing the point. Mosley had no title nor was he a champion. He was a former champion that hasn't won a fight since January of 2009 and its not like Pac just moved up to fight a 39 year old Mosley either. Floyd walked in to 147 no catchweights and beat 2 out of the Top 3. You cant say that about Pac can you?

                      Anyway the boxing community wanted Floyd Judah. Its not Floyd's fought he lost to Baldo. Floyd fought both and as you can see, some of the boxing community STILL wasn't happy. Nothing will change either when Pac agrees to testing and Floyd and him fight. The boxing community won't happy. It is what it is. If you followed Floyd long enough you would know it.

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