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  • #61
    Originally posted by ADP02 View Post
    Besides Baldomir, Zab also lost to Clottey, Cotto, Floyd and Spinks .... Zab basically lost half of his WW fights and had problems with all the good WWs and even some not so good ones! Just look at which division Zab is now ... 140

    You can't use triangle theories to justify what Floyd would have done to them. Remember that Cotto beat Mosley but lost Margarito who Mosley KOed!

    Furthermore, someone like Cotto should have fought Floyd when he was still undefeated ... around the time Cotto fought Mosley. Even most of the Floyd fans hoped for that! As for them other opponents, Floyd had the time to fight them all but didn't!

    BUT the point is that if you don't fight them you can't get credited nor use their names to build up your legacy .... that's what Floyd is missing .... that plus if he had that partner (opponent) to dance with that could have brought him up another level in stature.....
    Furthermore, someone like Cotto should have fought Floyd when he was still undefeated ... around the time Cotto fought Mosley. Even most of the Floyd fans hoped for that! As for them other opponents, Floyd had the time to fight them all but didn't!

    Cotto avoided Mayweather like the plague or rather his promoters did so you need to just shut up because you don't know what you're talking about!!! Besides that many of Manny's opponents lost many fights before fighting that PED user.

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    • #62
      Originally posted by HandSpeed303 View Post
      Not that it really matters, but he didn't give Forrest a good fight...It's a wonder he wasn't KO'ed in that fight.

      In all honesty, you may be mixing up the Forrest/Quartey fight with the Baldi one. Baldie was dominated...Quartey's fight with the Viper can be debated on who won.

      Please Take Note: ^^^This has nothing to do with what you and Jro are talking about...That line just stuck out to me.
      Sorry I didn't clarify what I was saying. But what I meant to say was that he wasn't koed. He definitely wasn't going to win a decision against a fighter that was much taller and more skillful than himself.
      I had Quartey winning the fight against the late Forrest.

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      • #63
        Originally posted by WalkerSmith1921 View Post
        Sorry I didn't clarify what I was saying. But what I meant to say was that he wasn't koed. He definitely wasn't going to win a decision against a fighter that was much taller and more skillful than himself.
        I hear you...

        I just remember watching that fight thinking, "what is keep Baldie up?"... "Man this dude has a good chin!".

        Forrest landed hard right, after hard right on Baldi all night. Baldie showed tons of heart in that fight though.

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        • #64
          Originally posted by jrosales13 View Post
          How many times do I have to repeat myself on my opinions on Pac opponents. I have done so in this thread on 4 different occasions already.

          Garbage waste of time fights are garbage was of time fights period. I don't give a damn if it's Floyd, Pac, Tito, Roy, Bradley, Moreno, whoever. No excuses for garbage ass fights that waste time to take place when you're on an elite level surface. Especially if you're only fighting twice a year.

          Why couldn't Floyd fight Margarito instead of Judah again?

          And, LOL @ Judah and Mosley being nothing alike.

          Oh the hypocrisy
          Mayweather Judah was not a waste of time. Judah was not past his prime and did not look bad back to back like Mosley did who was nearly 39 years old. Sorry you can not compare Judah to Mosley. Mosley lost to Mayweather and then couldn't even beat a boxing TV reality star in Mora. Judah lost one time and because everyone wanted the fight in the first place Floyd took it.

          Pac said "NO" to Mosley. Its not like Floyd ducked Judah like Pac did Mosley after he beat the exposed Margarito.

          ....and wasn't the Margarito fight about money issues? Is that not the ultimate reason Floyd fired Bob? Hell why didn't Floyd fight Cotto back then? Why hasn't Floyd fought any Top Rank fighter since then? Bob Arum......

          Margarito would have been toyed with by Floyd Mayweather any how. That POS is a bum and f**king disgrace to the sport. I hope dies in the ring.....

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          • #65
            Originally posted by HandSpeed303 View Post
            Everyone was not calling for that fight...Pre-Baldie? Sure. Post Baldie, that fight lost a ton of steam.

            Many fight fans, and experts alike gave Floyd flack about chosing to fight Zab after his loss. Brain Kenny really dug into Floyd about the fight. Many, and I mean many people felt Zab lost his shot, and should not have got one.

            Anyway, just clearing up the everyone line.

            As you were.
            Really? Who gives a shyt what Brain Kenny says about boxing.

            Yes MANY fans did call for the fight just not when the fight took place. Same will be said when Bob/Pac send a signed contract or document to Al Haymon/Mayweather agreeing to the random unlimited blood testing and him and Floyd fight.

            Mayweather vs Judah was called for and just because Zab lost one fight to Baldo who hadn't lost a fight in nearly a decade and was ranked higher than the cheater Margartio didn't mean shyt. It was still a great fight. I personally was more than happy to see Floyd fight a southpaw. F**K margarito's p*ssy ass for attempting to cheat vs my boy Mosley and who ever else.

            Its the same shyt different restroom when it comes to Floyd, no matter who he fights people will bytch. You'll see when him and Pac fight.

            as you where..........

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            • #66
              Originally posted by WESS View Post
              Really? Who gives a shyt what Brain Kenny says about boxing.

              Yes MANY fans did call for the fight just not when the fight took place. Same will be said when Bob/Pac send a signed contract or document to Al Haymon/Mayweather agreeing to the random unlimited blood testing and him and Floyd fight.

              Mayweather vs Judah was called for and just because Zab lost one fight to Baldo who hadn't lost a fight in nearly a decade and was ranked higher than the cheater Margartio didn't mean shyt. It was still a great fight. I personally was more than happy to see Floyd fight a southpaw. F**K margarito's p*ssy ass for attempting to cheat vs my boy Mosley and who ever else.

              Its the same shyt different restroom when it comes to Floyd, no matter who he fights people will bytch. You'll see when him and Pac fight.

              as you where..........
              Just, Wow...

              This post was from pure emotion...Lay off the juice man. Seriously.

              Of course you were calling for the fight, you are a huge Floyd fan. You really don't care who he fights. That is understandable. To act as if "everyone" (the word you chose to use) wanted to see the fight after Zab lost to Baldie is, well, misinformed.

              Also, I don't care what Brian Kenny says, I was pointing out that he was one of the people that gave Floyd crap on a number of interviews cause of the choice.

              Others did aswell...Including Fans. I never said that "no one" was interested in the fight.

              It's just that "everyone" was a poor choice of words on your part.

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              • #67
                Originally posted by WESS View Post
                Really? Who gives a shyt what Brain Kenny says about boxing.

                Yes MANY fans did call for the fight just not when the fight took place. Same will be said when Bob/Pac send a signed contract or document to Al Haymon/Mayweather agreeing to the random unlimited blood testing and him and Floyd fight.

                Mayweather vs Judah was called for and just because Zab lost one fight to Baldo who hadn't lost a fight in nearly a decade and was ranked higher than the cheater Margartio didn't mean shyt. It was still a great fight. I personally was more than happy to see Floyd fight a southpaw. F**K margarito's p*ssy ass for attempting to cheat vs my boy Mosley and who ever else.

                Its the same shyt different restroom when it comes to Floyd, no matter who he fights people will bytch. You'll see when him and Pac fight.

                as you where..........
                Please stop.. Judah lose to a journeyman that was suppose to be a tune-up. That's why he was no longer a viable option for Floyd. And dont lie, Baldomir was not rated higher than Marg when Judah fought him. Marg was rated #1 contender behind Judah..Baldomir hardly made it to the rankings.

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                • #68
                  Oh No Merchant (One of Mayweather's biggest haters) is saying positive things about his fight. Lets derail the thread.

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by WESS View Post
                    Really? Who gives a shyt what Brain Kenny says about boxing.

                    Yes MANY fans did call for the fight just not when the fight took place. Same will be said when Bob/Pac send a signed contract or document to Al Haymon/Mayweather agreeing to the random unlimited blood testing and him and Floyd fight.

                    Mayweather vs Judah was called for and just because Zab lost one fight to Baldo who hadn't lost a fight in nearly a decade and was ranked higher than the cheater Margartio didn't mean shyt. It was still a great fight. I personally was more than happy to see Floyd fight a southpaw. F**K margarito's p*ssy ass for attempting to cheat vs my boy Mosley and who ever else.

                    Its the same shyt different restroom when it comes to Floyd, no matter who he fights people will bytch. You'll see when him and Pac fight.
                    as you where..........
                    After reading this post again...Wess, what are you talking about?

                    Why bring up testing? I didn't. Why bring up Margo or Baldie's rank (Margo was ranked #1 ya know)? I didn't. Why in the world bring up Pac? I sure the hell didn't.

                    I simply replied to the fact that you assume even after Zab lost to Baldie, that "everyone" still wanted that fight. That is simply incorrect.

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by jrosales13 View Post
                      Such an immature childish thing to say. Hence why you're a terrible poster.



                      No it was not. If that was the case he would not have been looking to fight Cory Spinks as a replacement. But, you would have known this if you actually would have followed the sport back then.



                      You can't give a good count of yourself if you lose to a damn journeyman. Judah is just an overrated fighter. And, the Floyd fight should have never happened after he lost to a damn journeyman.



                      No doubt, Mayweather-Ortiz is legit. Pacquiao-JMM is garbage, that's 3 garbage fights in a row.
                      In all fairness Judah is a good fighter with great athleticism. His flaws lie in the fact that he has no chin and no discipline. If u deny that you either know nothing about boxing or is a hater, it's that simple.

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