Is Floyd currently the only boxer that is looked at as having the advantage under...

[skillswin]

Is Floyd currently the only boxer that is looked at as having the advantage under the same circumstances that any other boxer would have been looked as the underdog/at a disadvantage in the same situation Floyd is in?

Let me make this more clear:

Floyd is in his mid 30s, 10 years older than his next opponent which is the second best at welterweight, and Floyd is coming off a 16 month lay off.

And people see him as the favorite, and as having the advantage.


Floyd came off a 21 month lay off against Marquez, the former Lightweight. Floyd had the size advantage. Okay I can deal with that one, Marquez had the activity on his side, while Floyd had size on his size, although I don't think size matters to be honest.

Mosley came off a 14 month lay off, was 5 years older than Floyd: Floyd had the advantage.

Now Floyd is 34, 10 years older than Ortiz, Ortiz is bigger, more active, Floyd has not fought in 16 months, who has the advantage: Although it's actually Ortiz, some fans say Floyd has the advantage.

I mean, for you to have the advantage under those circumstances, do you know how much of a special fighter do you have to be? You have to be the very best, to still be looked at as the favorite and as having the advantage with all of those important factors against you.

I know this thread will probably not be taken seriously, because I am a known Floyd fan or "*****", and I just look like a giant nutthugger right now,

But to those neutral guys who do not have an agenda against Floyd, give your take on this. Do you agree that Floyd is basically put on a whole different standard than other fighters?

great post, even *******s give merits to floyd

to then floyd dont need tune up he is just that good

[IronDanHamza]

sugar ray leonard...not only did he fought a newly crowned fighter but a great champion in marvin hagler. and mind you leonard had to go up in weight for that fight...that's like floyd going up to fight martinez after a layoff.

All due respect Mayweather and Leonard are an astromincally different set of fighters.

[-Johannes-]

4 years out and he put on a masterclass.
Ali came back from 3 and half years out and took on Quary.
Oscar came back from almost 3 year out to take the WBC light-middleweight title.

Are you still saying no one.

Seems like a lot of boxers have outstripped Floyd in that department, but you still stay in denial.

I recommend you go back to 3rd grade and re read your teachers notes on reading comprehension. Notice I'm saying that it's something no one WOULD do. I'm not saying he's the only one in history. The names you people mention are ATGs yet you only put down Mayweather. Tell me who would do it? Right now there's no active boxer capable of perform against great level oposition after a lay off. The "best" right now doesn't take risks and he's active as fuck.

[-Kev-]

Yup, he's that good. Which is why it bugs me how inactive he's been. He'd easily be top 10 ATG by now but chose not to be. Now he gotta play catch instead of being where s'posed to be. Hopefully its not too late for him.

Maybe. Let's hope he goes the Hopkins route and "leaves the best for last". Although I doubt Floyd fights in to age 46, because Hopkins is actually playing catch up with money as he admitted before. Hopkins is cashing in all the money he didn't get in his 20's-early 30s, which by that age Floyd was already his own man and has money to retire right now and be set for life.

Out of his last 5 fights, counting Ortiz: DLH, Hatton, Mosley, and Ortiz, I think those are all good competitive fights at the time he fought them. Marquez was the only match up I did not really like and that was just a tune up. Sure i'd like to see Pacquiao and Sergio on his resume, but we'll see what happens after Ortiz. Floyd has been unpredictable lately. Goes from fighting a LW, to the #1 WW. Goes on vacation for a year and half, comes back to fight a good young champion like Ortiz, instead of choosing Maidana or Guerrero for an easier pay day and fights that would be looked at as actual tune ups.

[D4thincarnation]

All due respect Mayweather and Leonard are an astromincally different set of fighters.

The point being Johannes was claiming no one else can do what Floyd does. come back after a long lay off and challenge for a title or take on a top contender.

Many have done it more impressively.

[megadeth]

sugar ray leonard...not only did he fought a newly crowned fighter but a great champion in marvin hagler. and mind you leonard had to go up in weight for that fight...that's like floyd going up to fight martinez after a layoff.

Not really. Leonard has admitted many times he decided to fight Hagler, while watching the Mugabi fight and noticing that Hagler was slipping. I ain't comparing Martinez or Ortiz to Hagler(no comparison), but neither of them are "slipping".

[-Kev-]

Mosley was much older, was going through a divorce, he does not live the gym life and was overtrained.

How long has Wlad been out of the ring for? Is that long enough for an excuse.

Mosley was going through his divorce during the Margarito fight, which was Jan/Feb 2009. That was a whole year and half before the Floyd fight.

Stop rewriting history please.

[IronDanHamza]

The point being Johannes was claiming no one else can do what Floyd does. come back after a long lay off and challenge for a title or take on a top contender.

Many have done it more impressively.

Absolutely.

Plenty of times across History has this occured.

[-Johannes-]

The point being Johannes was claiming no one else can do what Floyd does. come back after a long lay off and challenge for a title or take on a top contender.

Many have done it more impressively.

Quote me when I claim that no one CAN do it. I said no one else would do it. As in right now.

[D4thincarnation]

I recommend you go back to 3rd grade and re read your teachers notes on reading comprehension. Notice I'm saying that it's something no one WOULD do. I'm not saying he's the only one in history. The names you people mention are ATGs yet you only put down Mayweather. Tell me who would do it? Right now there's no active boxer capable of perform against great level oposition after a lay off. The "best" right now doesn't take risks and he's active as fuck.

Also most of those boxers were forced to retire, Mayweather has chosen to.

Boxer have done it in the past and they will do it in the future.

But you like to think Mayweather is special, he is not, many have done much more.

Other have also been competely out of the game, Mayweather has always stayed in shape and has always chose to retire.