offical floyd-ortiz discussion thread

[-MAKAVELLI-]

He might thrive under it. I think a lack of motivation was the cause of that draw against Peterson.

or he could wilt


when Juarez-John 2 was fell thru, they made Vic the headliner vs Maidana...we all know how that turned out

[-MAKAVELLI-]

I was thinking about this, too. It almost certainly will get to him. He still comes off as too much of a "kid" sometimes. And I think that when Mayweather is in face, talking trash, that it's really going to bother him.

It's going to be interesting to see how he handles Mayweather trying to intimidate him.

that plus all the cameras for the 24-7, the extra press...all that will be new to him

[IronDanHamza]

that plus all the cameras for the 24-7, the extra press...all that will be new to him

What you think, Mak? Legit fight?

[-MAKAVELLI-]

What you think, Mak? Legit fight?

no doubt...although i give Vic around 30% of winning this fight, im very interested in watching this one


the lack of jab from Ortiz does worry me

[IronDanHamza]

no doubt...although i give Vic around 30% of winning this fight, im very interested in watching this one


the lack of jab from Ortiz does worry me

Absolutely. I have touched on that a few times already in other threads.

His lack of jab will be a big problem and Floyd is inevitably going to reduce his output and Ortiz just has so many flaws to exploit.

But, it is one of the best options available and that has to be addressed in fairness.

I probably give Ortiz less than a 30% chance to be totally honest but I'm looking forward to it.

[ThePrince]

Only way Ortiz can make this even remotely competitive is to jump on Floyd early and make it ugly. Use his weight (should be 160ish in the ring) and impose it on Floyd, put constant pressure on him, don't give him space to figure him out and time him. Important to throw more than one punch at a time, Floyd reacts to every punch thrown so doing that makes his job easy. Working on feints makes sense, like Mosley did- feinted with a jab to the body, Floyd reacted, Shane came over the top with a right hand immediately, worked twice in the 2nd for huge shots.

Working on blocking/defense wouldn't hurt either. Not hard for fists to find Ortiz's face

[-EAGLE-]

it's gonna be a good fight, vic can hurt floyd... let's do it

[lfc19titles]

Really?


So Ortiz ENHANCES Floyds legacy right?

yeah but only a bit

i want pac to add martinez, floyd and any other decent guys to his resume

i am just being truthful, i tell it like it is

both marquez and ortiz are easy fights for floyd and pac

[lfc19titles]

Please, cut the ****ing ****.

you thick idiot, drawing to a fight is almost losing for both guys, god you are an idiot.

[-MAKAVELLI-]

Absolutely. I have touched on that a few times already in other threads.

His lack of jab will be a big problem and Floyd is inevitably going to reduce his output and Ortiz just has so many flaws to exploit.

But, it is one of the best options available and that has to be addressed in fairness.

I probably give Ortiz less than a 30% chance to be totally honest but I'm looking forward to it.

the lack of jab and Floyd's jab to the body is going to thwart a lot of Vic's offense..he's going to have to use his legs to employ an in and out tactic to get his punches going