Who amongst these fighters ranks highest in the ATG list?

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  • $Bullsfam$
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    #31
    Originally posted by hugh grant
    We like hearing you tell us who your favourite is. But we are still waiting to hear what it actually is that Sweet pea went above and beyond.? I think that refers to what Pac has done? Things like taking his power up with him, and being as dominant or even more so in the higher weights.
    Do you want Pac to fly before you are impressed? He is supposedly superman but cant fly and your dissapointed am i right?
    What the **** are you talking about? Did you even read my post? I said at the end of Pac's career. He's not even done yet so their's no reason to mention him with Sweat Pea. Nobody know's where he goes. He could easily go up or down from here on out. He's only 32 with still another 2 years I believe of his prime left.

    LMAO at all these pac fanboys getting butthurt and trying to hint that I'm being bias with favoritism because I think he's close with an top 40 ATG in Bernard Hopkins who some historians even rank higher on lists. I'm sorry 20 title defenses, P4P since the late 90's up til 20-****in11, and top 10 ATG middleweight which is one of boxing's deepest divisions isn't good enough to be mentioned in the same sentence AS THE ALMIGHTY ****IN PACIQUAO!

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    • Walt Liquor
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      #32
      Originally posted by led's baby mama
      Come on seriously mane I really thought you were a great poster from the history section. Their is no way in hell Floyd Mayweather even comes close to Hopkins, Pac, and Roy Jones Jr who are really close to each other on an ATG list I believe.

      But to have Floyd above Hopkins is absolutely ludacris. His welterweight resume is not that impressive at all. He retired to many times and fought Hatton instead of Cotto & Margarito not to mention he won't fight Pac.140 he wasn't that accomplished either. Lightweight he was pretty good but thats it. Hopkins has a historic accomplishment, 20 title defenses, P4P since the late 90's. Top 10 middleweight of all time in one of the greatest divisions whereas Floyd isn't top 10 anywhere except skill & potential wise.

      He's closer to Barrera & Wlad.
      I agree wholeheartedly. Ruben overrated Floyd in a big way.

      I think there's an argument for roy, pea, PAC, or bhop being a clear level over anyone else.

      Floyd is on the next tier. The above guys don't have over 10 real competitiors that they made excuses for not fighting in their careers (during their competitors primes).

      My list b4 was off
      pea
      bhop
      roy
      PAC







      Floyd
      mab




      Klit

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      • IronDanHamza
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        #33
        Originally posted by RubenSonny
        I call thief


        You have Roy and Pac on the same level whereas I have Roy higher.

        You have Hopkins and Mayweather on the same level whereas I have Mayweather higher.

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        • RubenSonny
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          #34
          Originally posted by led's baby mama
          Come on seriously mane I really thought you were a great poster from the history section. Their is no way in hell Floyd Mayweather even comes close to Hopkins, Pac, and Roy Jones Jr who are really close to each other on an ATG list I believe.

          But to have Floyd above Hopkins is absolutely ludacris. His welterweight resume is not that impressive at all. He retired to many times and fought Hatton instead of Cotto & Margarito not to mention he won't fight Pac.140 he wasn't that accomplished either. Lightweight he was pretty good but thats it. Hopkins has a historic accomplishment, 20 title defenses, P4P since the late 90's. Top 10 middleweight of all time in one of the greatest divisions whereas Floyd isn't top 10 anywhere except skill & potential wise.

          He's closer to Barrera & Wlad.
          Skills are a big factor in my rankings here, I view Mayweather as the more polished fighter overall, though Hopkins might be better on the inside, with all distances taken into account, Floyd > Hopkins.

          Floyd beat a richer batch of contenders through the weights, Hopkins fought in a poor MW division, I definitely think Hopkins best decisive win is better than Floyds but thats not the entire resume.
          Last edited by RubenSonny; 05-30-2011, 08:07 PM.

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          • RubenSonny
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            #35
            Originally posted by IronDanHamza


            You have Roy and Pac on the same level whereas I have Roy higher.

            You have Hopkins and Mayweather on the same level whereas I have Mayweather higher.

            They are the ones I think are interchangeable but I still have them higher as indicated by their placement, you thieving bastard

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              #36
              for me its pernell, you cant really make that strong of a case to rate any of the others above him. On a side note i wish people would stop ranking fighters on their skill or based on so called prime, rate fighters based on their whole career and most importantly their resume. BTW pernell ranks higher than the rest of the list in both skill and resume.

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                #37
                Originally posted by RubenSonny
                They are the ones I think are interchangeable but I still have them higher as indicated by their placement, you thieving bastard
                I presumed that meant even.

                I guess great minds thinks alike.

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by RubenSonny
                  Skills are a big factor in my rankings here, I view Mayweather as the more polished fighter overall, though Hopkins might be better on the inside, with all distances taken into account, Floyd > Hopkins.

                  Floyd beat a richer batch of contenders through the weights, Hopkins fought in a poor MW division, I definitely think Hopkins best decisive win is better than Floyds but thats not the entire resume.
                  I take into account his biitchyness too. Since he didn't fight Margarito, Cotto, and Mosley(alil too late) and won't even fight the P4P best fighter in the world besides himself really hurts him. I like to take into account skills too but I mean a lot of people rank Langford & Burley really high because they were ducked by a lot of people but when your ducker I can't really have no sympathy for him.

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                  • RubenSonny
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by IronDanHamza
                    I presumed that meant even.

                    I guess great minds thinks alike.
                    Just to let you know I've seen inception.....

                    Yup, its not actually very surprising that you came to that conclusion

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                    • Walt Liquor
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                      #40
                      Ok, Ruben gave his argument for rating Floyd higher based on his skills (at least he admits they weren't displayed against real competition). What's your reasoning for having Floyd over bhop dan?

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