more impressive roy goin from 154 to hw..or manny going from fly weight to ww

[Larry the boss]

You got your own agenda in creating this thread, larry, it's only fair. Each has his own agenda. LOL

to be honest man i dont have an agenda..just wanted peoples opinions..if people give good arguments than cool..read the thread and you'll see im not being biased at all

[kadyo's]

Roy won the title from the champion and top 10 HW John Ruiz, While Ruiz was not obligated to make any crazy catchweights.


Manny won his title while it was vacant, from a guy who was not even ranked in the top 15 at JMW, and not ranked at all at WW, and he did it with a catchweight.

Look at the title, kelvin, 150 is not included which means we are both out of topic. LOLZ

[JayDee2700]

Fighting Ruiz was like a catch wieght it was like fighing the Heavywieght Champ of the special olympics

LOL! When Manny beats a WW without a catch w8 then say sumthin, Dont really care if Ruiz wasnt the best HW out there, it's really the fact that Jones went up without use any type of BS catchw8 an claimed the title.

[Larry the boss]

LOL! When Manny beats a WW without a catch w8 then say sumthin, Dont really care if Ruiz wasnt the best HW out there, it's really the fact that Jones went up without use any type of BS catchw8 an claimed the title.

he did beat clottey and shane wit no catchweight

[puga]

now you're gonna sit here and make up **** to justify your agenda..gotcha

it not a made up...it is common sense.....4 lbs to a 112 is like 4% of his whole body weight...4lbs to a 154 fighter is around 2.5% perecent of his wole body weight..do you thin they designed weightclasses just cause?...lol...

here's another one ...4 lbs is easier to lose by a 154lber than a guy who's 112.....it's the same concept, it's common sense....

[kadyo's]

to be honest man i dont have an agenda..just wanted peoples opinions..if people give good arguments than cool..read the thread and you'll see im not being biased at all

You have larry, maybe it's in your subconscious and haven't realized it yet. You want to show people that RJJ is greater than pac. I see nothing wrong in that.

[-Spinal-]

had roy STAYED at HW at basically wiped out the WW division like manny, then id prolly say roy.

So Manny went up to 160 and cleaned out that division?

From 154-HW: 54lbs

From 106-160: 54lbs

So let's be fair here.

[JayDee2700]

WoW!!!! you truly believe RJJ would out box Lennox?

WoW!!!!

Yeah! due to the fact LL was past his prime at the time, too much speed and athletisism for LL. Now prime LL idk if Roy could win that match up.

[Larry the boss]

You have larry, maybe it's in your subconscious and haven't realized it yet. You want to show people that RJJ is greater than pac. I see nothing wrong in that.

not true at all i think manny should be ranked higher than roy

[Larry the boss]

So Manny went up to 160 and cleaned out that division?

From 154-HW: 54lbs

From 106-160: 54lbs

So let's be fair here.

wow.........................i didnt even do the math on that