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  • The Gambler1981
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    #91
    Originally posted by sdcluser
    Wow. What a response. Why don't you answer any of the point? The only one being exposed is YOU. BHOP >>> Dawson and has the leverage - a point you highly disagree and has no answer for.
    Because you are so off the matter at hand what you posted was irrelevant like what you have to say about boxing.

    You can't fight drug testing in negotiations it is a battle you can't win and can't look good so on the issue if he pushes for it yes Dawson has the leverage on that issue because he can make Hopkins look terrible which is obviously important to B-Hop.

    Yea B-Hop is above Dawson but that isn't the matter at hand, but like I said already reading comprehension obviously is not your strong suit, jumping to conclusions is~

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      #92
      Originally posted by The Gambler1981
      Because you are so off the matter at hand what you posted was irrelevant like what you have to say about boxing.

      You can't fight drug testing in negotiations it is a battle you can't win and can't look good so on the issue if he pushes for it yes Dawson has the leverage on that issue because he can make Hopkins look terrible which is obviously important to B-Hop.

      Yea B-Hop is above Dawson but that isn't the matter at hand
      , but like I said already reading comprehension obviously is not your strong suit, jumping to conclusions is~

      The point of the contention for me it is that BHop is ABOVE Dawson and because of that would call the shot.

      WE went over this already.

      So let say BHop does not take OST test (but ok with the regular test). Let say he doesn't take the test and looks "terrible". BHOP being above the pecking order would refuse and fight not take place as he has MORE leverage.

      THIS IS WHAT YOU WROTE:

      "He has plenty, B-Hop ain't a real bankable star, it is contracted that is who he is suppose to fight next and HBO is likely to want that fight. B-Hop could avoid it but how does that make him look? And he would likely not be fighting anyone just sitting out there answering the same BS questions~"

      "There is no one except Dawson for B-Hop so if Dawson feels the desire to pull that card he should he can force it on B-Hop"

      My response:
      1) B-HOP more bankable.
      2) So BHop looks "bad". Why? Did Pascal made him look bad? Nope.
      3) No. BHop would not be sitting out. He would fight someone else (reasonable options). Why? Because he is more bankable and HBO knows that. He is making HISTORY every single fight.
      Last edited by sdcluser; 05-26-2011, 09:07 PM.

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        #93
        Originally posted by sdcluser
        The point of the contention for me it is that BHop is ABOVE Dawson and because of that would call the shot.

        WE went over this already.

        So let say BHop does not take OST test (but ok with the regular test). Let say he doesn't take the test and looks "terrible". BHOP being above the pecking order would refuse and fight not take place as he has MORE leverage.

        THIS IS WHAT YOU WROTE:

        "He has plenty, B-Hop ain't a real bankable star, it is contracted that is who he is suppose to fight next and HBO is likely to want that fight. B-Hop could avoid it but how does that make him look? And he would likely not be fighting anyone just sitting out there answering the same BS questions~"


        My response:
        1) B-HOP more bankable.
        2) So BHop looks "bad". Why? Did Pascal made him look bad? Nope.
        3) No. BHop would not be sitting out. He would fight someone else (reasonable options). Why? Because he is more bankable and HBO knows that. He is making HISTORY every single fight.
        Look back at the second post, having the biggest **** does not mean you can't get out maneuvered, and drug testing is an issue is one that is easy to get out maneuvered on especially if you care about what people will say.

        There are no reasonable options for HBO with B-Hop other than Dawson nothing else makes sense HBO is not just going to throw money at B_Hop without a plan, if that plan doesn't work guess what B-Hop won't be on their station thus no fight. Showtime isn't going to pay top dollar for bullshit either, and Bute is highly unlikely until later on.

        I said think clearly and all you have come back with was convoluted bullshit.

        Try again.
        Last edited by The Gambler1981; 05-26-2011, 09:10 PM.

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          #94
          Originally posted by The Gambler1981
          Look back at the second post, having the biggest **** does not mean you can't get out maneuvered, and drug testing is an issue is one that is easy to get out maneuvered on especially if you care about what people will say.

          I said think clearly and all you have come back with was convoluted bullshit.

          Try again.
          I am saying BHop has a lot of saying and will outmaneuver it. Who is Dawson to demand this? He ain't gonna ask ****.

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            #95
            Originally posted by sdcluser
            I am saying BHop has a lot of saying and will outmaneuver it. Who is Dawson to demand this? He ain't gonna ask ****.
            There is nothing that can be done on the issue if Chad wants to press it, B-Hop is out maneuvered.

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              #96
              chad gunna beat bhop

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                #97
                Originally posted by The Gambler1981
                There is nothing that can be done on the issue if Chad wants to press it, B-Hop is out maneuvered.
                Then no fight is made. Accusations follows right? No proof. Other options (fights) kicks in.

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                  #98
                  Originally posted by sdcluser
                  Then no fight is made. Accusations follows right? No proof. Other options (fights) kicks in.
                  B-Hop suffers the reputation damage he doesn't want and the press is as kind to B-Hop as they are to Manny.

                  A lot of nothing happens after that if you are not counting bullshit anyways, for at least a year in regards to B-Hop. Dawson may come back sooner but he would also take a hit.

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                    #99
                    Originally posted by The Gambler1981
                    B-Hop suffers the reputation damage he doesn't want and the press is as kind to B-Hop as they are to Manny.

                    A lot of nothing happens after that if you are not counting bullshit anyways, for at least a year in regards to B-Hop. Dawson may come back sooner but he would also take a hit.
                    Gambler, why wouldn't HBO take other available options for other fights (reasonable contenders) for BHop?
                    Dawson would probably rematch against Pascal.

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                      #100
                      Requesting testing is kind of laim without the support of Boxing's goverment. Is like complaining about taxes at the IRS office. A waste of time. What boxers should do is organize formal negotiations to try to change the current rules in regards to drug testing.
                      I agree that drug testing needs to get update to deal with todays drugs.
                      Other sport are behind, but surely enough they at least discover the cheater sooner or later. Boxing will never discover the cheaters as I'm sure we are not storing boxing samples to test later.
                      Cheating boxers will cheat and get away with it with the current screening and that's why it will continue to grow in the sport.

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