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  • The Gambler1981
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    #101
    Originally posted by sdcluser
    Gambler, why wouldn't HBO take other available options for other fights (reasonable contenders) for BHop?
    Dawson would probably rematch against Pascal.
    Because there are none that they would want to buy for the price that B-Hop would want~

    GBP would have to finance a PPV that would do not very well although may cover costs for B-Hop to fight any of those guys, and I doubt B-Hop even cares to put in that work in that sort of fight.

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      #102
      Originally posted by The Gambler1981
      Because there are none that they would want to buy for the price that B-Hop would want~
      We went over this as well. ok?
      I disagree. If HBO is willing to pay Berto $1mil to fight essentially nobodies, why wouldn't they pay BHop who is a legend? HBO can put up actual contenders (with some marketing of course) that ppl who want to see.

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        #103
        Originally posted by sdcluser
        We went over this as well. ok?
        I disagree. If HBO is willing to pay Berto $1mil to fight essentially nobodies, why wouldn't they pay BHop who is a legend? HBO can put up actual contenders (with some marketing of course) that ppl who want to see.
        HBO does not always do that, and I already told you those situations are not alike.

        There is no future in B-Hop so that investment would not appeal to them, they will only invest in him if they get what they want.

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          #104
          Originally posted by The Gambler1981
          HBO does not always do that, and I already told you those situations are not alike.

          There is no future in B-Hop so that investment would not appeal to them, they will only invest in him if they get what they want.
          BHop is more bankable NOW than Berto. Has the presence now and has recognition thru out the years. HBO WILL find a fight for him over Dawson. BTW, look likes the fight is coming to agreement. We shall see.

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            #105
            Originally posted by LarryX2011
            yea..marijuana.............stop reading boxrec
            I recall about 3-4 years ago Augustus was asked to fill in at short notice. He said that he'd been smoking marijuana, and the promoters said it didn't matter they neede hi to make up the bill. So he fought.....and lost. I can't think who his opponent was.

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              #106
              Originally posted by The Gambler1981
              If Dawson feels that is important he should, but if he doesn't then whatever I am not going to be worried about it either if he isn't.

              It would be cool if B-Hop took the bull by the horns and dealt with it though.
              All the signs about Hopkins for years now seem to point to it somehow. Yet that there is no proof means that there is nothing there. Until.........

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                #107
                Originally posted by sdcluser
                BHop is more bankable NOW than Berto. Has the presence now and has recognition thru out the years. HBO WILL find a fight for him over Dawson. BTW, look likes the fight is coming to agreement. We shall see.
                So what Berto technically had a future so paying him now is an investment that is why he was getting paid, plus he was getting groomed because some big stars were in that division. That is not the case at 175~

                HBO will not find a fight it doesn't want, in fact they will poo-poo other fights to make sure they get what they want and they clearly want Hopkins-Dawson.

                Dawson may not even ask for it~ which is on him if he feels fine about it then I am fine he is the one that is in the dangerous position not me.

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                  #108
                  Originally posted by edgarg
                  All the signs about Hopkins for years now seem to point to it somehow. Yet that there is no proof means that there is nothing there. Until.........
                  I have no issue with any fighter asking for it based on however they feel, that guy is in the real dangerous position and has every right to know the guy across from him is clean.

                  If they are straight on it then whatever, it is still a risk but if you don't care to know and are cool with it fine I am not the one in danger.

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                    #109
                    Originally posted by The Gambler1981
                    What Pascal did was what Mayweather Sr. did he just said stuff, Dawson would be doing what Jr. did and if the fight doesn't go through then B-Hop is in the exact same situation as Manny to a lesser degree because the stakes are much lower but it is the exact same at that point.

                    Dawson is the next guy in line like him or not and agreed to step aside to let this fight happen rather than get into a legal mess considering Pascal was obligated to give Dawson a rematch and that was before the Hopkins fight.

                    There is no one except Dawson for B-Hop so if Dawson feels the desire to pull that card he should he can force it on B-Hop~

                    If you don't get that it is not worth going further with this.
                    No Dawson would not be the same. All he needs to do is to have it included in the contract. As long as he doesn't make wild accusations without any proof it is NOT the same.

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                      #110
                      Originally posted by sdcluser
                      Look, the main reason that BHop is fighting Dawson is the contract. Pascal ALREADY partially pulled the PED card. And it really harmed B-Hop's rep. Let me ask you this, if B-Hop said no what the **** Dawson is gonna do? I am sure HBO is gonna stroke Dawson's small **** to make the fight b/c Dawson is such a draw and because Stewards got some sort of special pull from HBO. Please, stop making **** up. BHop can get other opponents in that division. Let's look at it another way, if there were NO HBO contract, BHop would have gone elsewhere and Dawson would be holding his "big" ****.

                      BHOP is now in top 10 p4p list now. Did you see Dawson's anemic performance? Steward had to **** lie to his fighter that he is losing to motivate his arse.
                      I don't know why you make such a "big thing" about Steward "lying' to his fighter. This is a COMMON practice, especially in close or lacklustre fights to encourage and brisk up the fighter. It's done all the time, always has been.

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