So I finally watched Cotto vs Mayorga last night......

[figzuki]

Wow, Tito vs Marg would be a classic. I think Marg's chin and pressure would keep him in the fight but in the end, I think Tito's speed and power would win the fight for him. Even though Tito's chin wasn't the greatest and it would be interesting to see how he handled getting hit by Marg.

I see Tito winning a UD, beating on Marg for 12 rounds. Maybe Marg drops him though.

oh yea cant rule that out, Tito didn't have a bad chin though, he was just prone to flash knockdowns in the second round for some reason though lol... His best quality was how he recooperated so quick from that though,unlike Juanma who gets knockdown and it lasts for the rest of the fight....

Man i don't even want to talk about Juanma to tell u the truth....

As far as Marg-Cotto, i cant wait for this.... Maybe i'll have to take a year off of boxingscene after that if Cotto looses lol, man that Juanma **** hurt bro, its crazy....

[figzuki]

I always said Salido was dangerous enough to pull off the upset though

[JmH Reborn]

Man i don't even want to talk about Juanma to tell u the truth....

As far as Marg-Cotto, i cant wait for this.... Maybe i'll have to take a year off of boxingscene after that if Cotto looses lol, man that Juanma **** hurt bro, its crazy....

Why?

I'm a PR, and honestly...I was so happy to see this guy fall. Here's hoping he can turn his career around and win me as a fan. I was desperately clinging to hope that he would get KO'd. The KO was suspect no doubt because he was still throwing, but it was satisfying nonetheless.

[Cuauhtémoc1520]

I gotta agree with you on how the Mayorga fight played out, Mayo was clearly shot to **** and unable to mount a solid offense & Cotto was hesitant to jump on him and end the fight, which he could have done easily.

What this says about a Marg rematch, i don't know but Marg will not be standing there and throwing punches in weak bursts once or twice a round that's for sure.

That's basically all I was trying to say, at least someone got it and didn't get their feelings hurt.

He's on the wrong side of 35, so that was to be expected. However he was supposed to fade by round 3, so that shows the level of commitment he made to training. Mayorga has been flip flopping in and out of Jr. MW for over 10 years. He may be 5'9, but his body has been that of a natural Jr. MW for years. Margarito has always been a WW, up until this past year. I think he had some tune ups a bit north of WW a couple of times, but nothing sustained.

I think Mayorga and Margarito are almost the same, physically. I just give the power edge and physical edge to Mayorga. Margarito has rarely been a KO power hitter, unlike Mayorga.


I think in the early rounds of their first fight. It was Cotto who elected to dance around on the ropes from his own volition, nothing that Marg did initially. He didn't attempt to keep it in the center of the ring and conserve his energy, so eventually, the hits took its toll. If Cotto keeps in the center of the ring and touch up the body, then it'll be a different fight.

Mayorga definitely has the power edge career wise but Margarito is a volume puncher.

In their first fight, Marg hurt Cotto badly in the second round, the only round I gave to Marg in the first 6 rounds of the fight. Pac also said the hardest he's ever been hit was by Marg, almost going down in the 6th.

So for a fighter who can't hit very hard, Marg seems to catch people's attention in the ring. He may not have 1 punch ko power but believe me, you don't want to be constantly battered by Marg over 12 rounds.

Cotto couldn't keep the center of the ring because he was being FORCED backwards, I think you need to rewatch the fight with all due respect.

Cotto wanted to throw to the body and keep the fight in space but Marg didn't allow him to do that. Everyone talks about how Cotto's corner had the wrong game plan, I disagree. He had the perfect game plan, he just couldn't execute it.

[figzuki]

Why?

I'm a PR, and honestly...I was so happy to see this guy fall. Here's hoping he can turn his career around and win me as a fan. I was desperately clinging to hope that he would get KO'd. The KO was suspect no doubt because he was still throwing, but it was satisfying nonetheless.

I completely understand u, yo creo que estava en un viaje.... I think this will make him much better though.... (hopefully)

[figzuki]

That's basically all I was trying to say, at least someone got it and didn't get their feelings hurt.



Mayorga definitely has the power edge career wise but Margarito is a volume puncher.

In their first fight, Marg hurt Cotto badly in the second round, the only round I gave to Marg in the first 6 rounds of the fight. Pac also said the hardest he's ever been hit was by Marg, almost going down in the 6th.

So for a fighter who can't hit very hard, Marg seems to catch people's attention in the ring. He may not have 1 punch ko power but believe me, you don't want to be constantly battered by Marg over 12 rounds.

Cotto couldn't keep the center of the ring because he was being FORCED backwards, I think you need to rewatch the fight with all due respect.

Cotto wanted to throw to the body and keep the fight in space but Marg didn't allow him to do that. Everyone talks about how Cotto's corner had the wrong game plan, I disagree. He had the perfect game plan, he just couldn't execute it.

Pac never said that, matter of fact he has said the hardest he has been hit, and the toughest fight he's had was with Erik Morales....

As far as going down in the 6th, c'mon bro, he wasn't even close..... Not 1 person even thought Pac was hurt until he said so in the interviews..... It was like an oh really?! lol

[Cuauhtémoc1520]

oh yea cant rule that out, Tito didn't have a bad chin though, he was just prone to flash knockdowns in the second round for some reason though lol... His best quality was how he recooperated so quick from that though,unlike Juanma who gets knockdown and it lasts for the rest of the fight....

Man i don't even want to talk about Juanma to tell u the truth....

As far as Marg-Cotto, i cant wait for this.... Maybe i'll have to take a year off of boxingscene after that if Cotto looses lol, man that Juanma **** hurt bro, its crazy....

Salido is a very dangerous fighter and the fight vs Gamboa should have told you that.

Call me crazy and I think we talked about this before but I think the talent in PR is exceptional but the trainers are not.

I was shocked to see JuanMa stand and trade with Salido, why would he do that? Why would the corner allow him to do that?

If JuanMa would have chosen to box as did Gamboa for 12 rounds, JuanMa would still be champ. He got into a slug fest with Salido and that's something you don't want to do.

I think it was the fault of the corner to be honest with you, they should have prepared him to box for 12 rounds, instead, I think they honestly thought they could stop a guy who hasn't been stopped in over 11 years. Makes no sense.

[BorderPatrol]

Margarito gets KTFO by Tito. Let's not even pretend that Margarito goes 12 rounds with Tito.

[borikua]

JuanMa's plan was probably to KO Salido since Gamboa couldn't. This loss will help him a lot imo.

[Cuauhtémoc1520]

Pac never said that, matter of fact he has said the hardest he has been hit, and the toughest fight he's had was with Erik Morales....

As far as going down in the 6th, c'mon bro, he wasn't even close..... Not 1 person even thought Pac was hurt until he said so in the interviews..... It was like an oh really?! lol

Watch the post presser, Pac said he almost went down and that was some of the hardest shots he's ever taken.

When I watched the fight live, I knew Pac was hurt. The announcers did as well. If you watch the replay, Marg hit him with a vicious uppercut and then a body shot right to the solar plexus that doubled Pac over.

Marg lost every round, there's no doubt that he was dominated but people act as if Marg hits like a girl, far from it.