So I finally watched Cotto vs Mayorga last night......

[Cuauhtémoc1520]

Cotto has lost it a bit, for sure. He doesn't pull the trigger like he used to. But I still can't take the TS seriously. This is the guy that argued that Cotto should have punched Margarito after the press conference or should have fought him in the parking lot outside.

I feel sorry for the kids you "train" in your basement. I hope you don't teach them that kind of behavior.

I train young kids in a gym, I was said "basement" because borderpatrol made that joke.

As far as punching Marg, Cotto isn't a child, he's a grown ass man. If he truly believed that Marg loaded his glove, *** yea he should have hit him. Don't act like a tough guy when he's not around, then put your head down and shake his hand like he's your friend. I wasn't the only one that said that by the way....

With a name like Quautemoc, Head-blahbedyblah is your perception here any surprise?

I thought Mayorga looked pretty good. Looked in better shape than he has for awhile and Cotto looked good boxing with more discipline than he did around the time he lost to the cheater, Margarito.

The drama in the fight was provided by the knowledge that Cotto can be wobbled and Mayorga can punch.

Were either of them as good as in their prime? Probably not, but to call it a ****ty fight only highlights your bias.

What does my name have anything to do with it? If you actually read my post you would know I wasn't dissing Cotto, I just said he's not the same fighter.

As far as Mayorga,....he looked good? Hahaha he was slapping with his punches, couldn't move and was sitting there waiting to get KO'd. Cotto of a few years back knocks him out under 4.

Mayorga is washed up, finished and has no business in the ring anymore. Fighters fight Mayorga to get their confidence back because it's a guaranteed KO.

[Ether]

Cotto's been done, Agree. Shit fight.

[Cuauhtémoc1520]

I agree. Out of Pacquiao's last six opponents (Díaz, DLH, Hatton, Cotto, Clottey, and Margarito), Cotto and Margarito have dealt out the most punishment to Pacquiao. All of those guys have lost to Pacquiao brutally (score-wise, punch stat-wise, damage-wise) but it's important to note that Cotto and Margarito left their mark on Pacquiao. Cotto gives Pacquiao caulitflower ear, and Margarito--despite losing the fight and having his face re-arranged--used his weight advantage to catch Pacquiao's attention several times during the fight and in round 6 had Pacquiao doing a lap around the ring to catch his breath.

I seriously believe people overlook the punches he took in those two fights and only see the W.

BTW, on the Cotto-Margarito rematch if it ever happens...it's too early for me to make an outright prediction (since I haven't seen or heard anything regarding training, sparring partners or whatnot), but if they were to fight tomorrow, I would say the following:

Margarito showed in the Pacquiao fight that, despite the punishment he took in his fights with Cotto and Mosley, that he still has a ton of heart and a monster chin. Normally chins crack after repeated use but Margarito has not shown signs of slipping in taking punches. I'm wondering whether or not this is the time where Margarito's chin shows its dents, though if I were a betting man I wouldn't really believe it's at this time. The question that I find myself asking (and in fact, what I believe will happen): Margarito can take a punch, but will his face hold up? Cotto doesn't punch as much as Pacquiao nor does he have the same movement or stamina as him.

My prediction, and call it wishful thinking, is that Cotto controls the first three or four rounds of the fight as he did before, Margarito's chin is showing its endurance as usual, but somewhere along the way Cotto begins to backpedal again but keeping more composure than he did in the first fight. Margarito's pressure begins to pay off around the ninth where it shows Cotto's vulnerability and he begins to retreat. Margarito's face is not holding up but he's showing that he still can walk through Cotto's shots and that he can't be stunned or rocked by Cotto. Cotto is retreating in the 11th (not as bloody, but still tired) and the referee stops the fight because of Margarito's facial damage in a questionable stoppage where Margarito seemed to be getting the upper hand in the fight slowly but surely.

After the fight, Puerto Rican posters rejoice, PRBoxingCotto goes on a thread starting spree saying how this was bigger and more relevant than Sánchez/Gómez, and Mexican posters take solice by declaring: "Margarito never took a knee, nor did he ever seem fazed or hurt by Cotto's punches. That was a questionable stoppage by ____________, and they should make a third fight."

These boards are going to be insane when/if this fight happens.

Hahaha green K great post...

You could be right, both fighters are not what they once were that's for sure. I see Cotto winning if he can get one last big performance in. If he can box for 12 rounds and keep Margarito off of him, then he has a chance.

If he allows Marg to push him backwards, then it doesn't matter what the game plan is to be honest.

I see Manny Steward throwing the towel in about the 10th or 11th to be honest.

[Dustaine]

I train young kids in a gym, I was said "basement" because borderpatrol made that joke.

As far as punching Marg, Cotto isn't a child, he's a grown ass man. If he truly believed that Marg loaded his glove, *** yea he should have hit him. Don't act like a tough guy when he's not around, then put your head down and shake his hand like he's your friend. I wasn't the only one that said that by the way....



What does my name have anything to do with it? If you actually read my post you would know I wasn't dissing Cotto, I just said he's not the same fighter.

As far as Mayorga,....he looked good? Hahaha he was slapping with his punches, couldn't move and was sitting there waiting to get KO'd. Cotto of a few years back knocks him out under 4.

Mayorga is washed up, finished and has no business in the ring anymore. Fighters fight Mayorga to get their confidence back because it's a guaranteed KO.

What are you gonna say then when Mayorga puts Canelo on his ass if they fight in September?

[Mr. Fantastic]

LMAO @ the emotional little crybabies for stating the obvious.

[Slyboots]

I train young kids in a gym, I was said "basement" because borderpatrol made that joke.

As far as punching Marg, Cotto isn't a child, he's a grown ass man. If he truly believed that Marg loaded his glove, *** yea he should have hit him. Don't act like a tough guy when he's not around, then put your head down and shake his hand like he's your friend. I wasn't the only one that said that by the way....

He's a grown ass man so he should act like a child and punch the guy in the face? And Cotto doesn't know for a fact that he did load his gloves. He's not gonna assault someone based on speculation. How do you think the boxing world would view Cotto for such an act?

The only person acting like a tough guy is you. Let's be real here, you wouldn't punch Marg in the face under the same circumstances.

As for the topic, yes both fighters are past it. Mayorga more so than Cotto, obviously, but it was still a good scrap. And while Cotto has seen better days, he still has enough left in him to give a world champ (albeit a less than impressive one) his first loss and go 12 rounds with a former world champ. To say that Marg, a fighter who has arguably suffered more damage than Cotto, is going to run through him is absurd.

[TintaBoricua]

Aw, **** it! Who wants in on this straight bet?

1 million vs. Anyone's 1 million that Cotto isn't stopped if a rematch ever happens. Regardless who wins, I'm predicting that Cotto makes it to the final bell if this fight is signed.

Only one bet as I don't wanna' be e-broke.

[Doctor_Tenma]

First off, what a ****ty fight. I can't believe Mayorga is even a pro boxer at this point. He looked slow, was winging punches and his feet were stuck in concrete.

Cotto on the other hand looked gun shy, he wasn't throwing anything, was standing right in front of Mayorga and was getting hit with punches that 4 years ago wouldn't have touched him.

I know that people here believe that Stewart has done something special with Cotto and that he has more movement but I honestly don't see it. Cotto should be looking great against a washed up bum like Mayorga.

Cotto was throwing 2-3 jabs and following up with nothing....It seemed like he was gun shy or didn't want to step into range. I understand the plan was to box but Mayorga was so wide open for shots it wasn't even funny. Cotto of but a few years back knocks him out in under 4 rounds.

If this version gets into the ring with the version of Margarito that fought Pacquaio, Cotto gets murdered.

If I was Stewart, I would keep as far away from Marg as possible but considering that might be Cotto's only big money fight left, he may have no choice.

No disrespect to Cotto, hell of a fighter but I think he's lost a lot in the past few years and the way he was standing in front of Mayorga and getting hit with slow looping shots, Margarito is not someone he needs to be fighting in the near future.

That's the thing, I'm always hearing how he has one of the best jabs, but if he can't follow up with it then whats the point? Cotto's greatest performance was against Shane, mixed up his attack to the head and body, used the jab to set up the straight right hand. Even against Margarito we saw glimpses of that, Cotto's long gone. I ain't tryin' to hear shit on how he would give Mayweather a competitive fight, that's bull.

In the bold, I disagree there. I think Cotto, Mosley and Pacquiao have taken so much out of Tony that I honestly see Margarito getting stopped in a possible rematch.

[Mr. Fantastic]

Aw, **** it! Who wants in on this straight bet?

1 million vs. Anyone's 1 million that Cotto isn't stopped if a rematch ever happens. Regardless who wins, I'm predicting that Cotto makes it to the final bell if this fight is signed.

Only one bet as I don't wanna' be e-broke.

Because if he's in trouble he's going to be running like he did vs Pac.

[TintaBoricua]

Because if he's in trouble he's going to be running like he did vs Pac.

I ain't going higher than 1 million, Fantastic!

I just don't see a rematch being much more dramatic than the first. It's been since three years since that and neither fighter is the same. What happened in the first fight was the stuff of epic proportions.

If those two try to make a second fight with the kind of bombs both landed, there could be a stoppage for either one.

Either Cotto crumbles and the ref steps in, or Tony's face is turned into mush from facial damage and the ref stops it with Margarito pressing forward every second...

This is one of those cases where the anticipation is going to be greater than the fight itself...

I'm pretty sold on that.

The bet still stands if anyone wants it...