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  • Originally posted by The Gambler1981 View Post
    So what Margarito was a very over rated fighter~ both are flawed fighters if your eyes can't tell you that your opinion means nothing.
    It still does not change the fact that margarito was more of a threat than Baldomir. In fact, Floyd was petrified on Margarito.

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    • Originally posted by Xeraser View Post
      It still does not change the fact that margarito was more of a threat than Baldomir. In fact, Floyd was petrified on Margarito.
      If Floyd was that easy to beat he would have lost already, Margarito ain't nothing special. They presented the same threat level, the only thing different about them is hype.

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      • Originally posted by The Gambler1981 View Post
        If Floyd was that easy to beat he would have lost already, Margarito ain't nothing special. They presented the same threat level, the only thing different about them is hype.
        Yet he deliberately avoided Margarito like a plague. Say what you want on Mrgarito just like Floyd made excuses but at the end of the day, Floyd conveniently ducked him. That was the fight that most people want to see.

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        • Originally posted by Xeraser View Post
          Yet he deliberately avoided Margarito like a plague. Say what you want on Mrgarito just like Floyd made excuses but at the end of the day, Floyd conveniently ducked him. That was the fight that most people want to see.
          Because he was extricating himself from Arum, to get the money he would have had to resign which would have meant no Oscar. After that Arum used Floyd's name excessively to build guys names even though he wasn't even trying to work with Floyd and the feeling was mutual so your conclusion seems off to me.

          It had to do with money (a shot at Oscar) not fear, people didn't really care about that fight as Floyd wasn't even that big at that point it wasn't until after Oscar that Floyd got big and people really cared about him.

          Margarito is a dime a dozen in terms of historical relevance so making a big deal about him is pretty laughable.

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          • Originally posted by Xeraser View Post
            Yet he deliberately avoided Margarito like a plague. Say what you want on Mrgarito just like Floyd made excuses but at the end of the day, Floyd conveniently ducked him. That was the fight that most people want to see.
            Yep.

            Some people always conveniently forget what Mayweather said when he was asked about fighting Margarito. After stating that Margarito wasn't popular enough, Floyd said,

            "We not fighting to prove to the boxing fans who, who the best is..."


            Heart of a warrior right there. /s

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            • Originally posted by MRBOOMER View Post
              And why?

              And let's try to keep it on these two only instead of jumping to other era's
              not a really fair being as though Floyd has way more fights at that weight....Floyd beat the top dude in the division TWICE....still ran out the side door to avoid that undefeated Cotto though...not saying Cotto would've won...but at least Floyd would have a recent win that ppl would RESPECT to the fullest....I like the way he fought Shane...thats just me, I give him credit for that....but that Cotto win would've been sweeter than the Sugar one

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              • Originally posted by The Gambler1981 View Post
                Because he was extricating himself from Arum, to get the money he would have had to resign which would have meant no Oscar. After that Arum used Floyd's name excessively to build guys names even though he wasn't even trying to work with Floyd and the feeling was mutual so your conclusion seems off to me.

                It had to do with money (a shot at Oscar) not fear, people didn't really care about that fight as Floyd wasn't even that big at that point it wasn't until after Oscar that Floyd got big and people really cared about him.

                Margarito is a dime a dozen in terms of historical relevance so making a big deal about him is pretty laughable.
                Blame it on Arum. Smh.

                Look you can twist and turn but at the end if the day Floyd was scared of Margarito. What's laughable is why Floyd was scared on someone that is nothing special.

                Most people want to see Floyd and Margarito - Floyd cherrypick Baldomir

                Most people want to see Floyd and Cotto -Floyd took a vacation.

                Most people want to see Floyd and PAC. Floyd took another vacation.

                There's always a routine for Floyd when a threat comes his way.

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                • Originally posted by The Gambler1981 View Post
                  If Floyd was that easy to beat he would have lost already, Margarito ain't nothing special. They presented the same threat level, the only thing different about them is hype.
                  Floyd lost to Castillo the first time.

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                  • Originally posted by Xeraser View Post
                    Blame it on Arum. Smh.

                    Look you can twist and turn but at the end if the day Floyd was scared of Margarito. What's laughable is why Floyd was scared on someone that is nothing special.

                    Most people want to see Floyd and Margarito - Floyd cherrypick Baldomir

                    Most people want to see Floyd and Cotto -Floyd took a vacation.

                    Most people want to see Floyd and PAC. Floyd took another vacation.

                    There's always a routine for Floyd when a threat comes his way.
                    You seem to be the one twisting things to suit your view~

                    The chain of events goes as follows

                    Floyd moved to 147 beat Sharmba Mitchell.

                    Beat Zab Judah

                    Bought himself out from Arum to line up Oscar but Oscar wanted to wait and Floyd had to fight someone he picked Baldomir who was the champ and did not have to lock himself up with Arum.

                    Floyd beat Baldomir

                    Floyd beat Oscar became a star and made a bunch of cash

                    Arum really starts to use Floyd name to build Margarito with the most feared man stuff.

                    Floyd beats Hatton for another fat stack of cash.

                    Floyd stops fighting because he has just made a mint and boxing is not a game that is very forgiving long term.

                    Arum continues to use Floyd's name to build guys hype

                    Floyd gets in some money trouble and comes back

                    Floyd fights JMM in a fight JMM asked for and makes a bunch of cash. It also helps out GBP (who Floyd owed a favor to) by doing something for JMM.

                    Floyd-Manny bull shit

                    Floyd lines up Mosley which was the next best fight

                    Floyd beats Mosley and makes even more money

                    Floyd doesn't fight anyone because he doesn't need to at this point.

                    The only pattern I see is Floyd fighting when he needs to~ and arum using Floyd's name to build hype for his guys~

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                    • Originally posted by Xeraser View Post
                      Floyd lost to Castillo the first time.
                      No he didn't~ in the record books it is a win.

                      And if a guy loses 5 of the first 6 round it is next to impossible to win a decision and JLC did not sweep the final 6 rounds. JLC should have started earlier then maybe you would have a point.

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