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  • Originally posted by KingOfBox View Post
    1. You mean trying for lineal MW supremacy against all-time best MW B-Hop
    ...or against WW HOFer Shane Mosley who won by all 3 score cards 115-113 ???


    2.This was conveniently said AFTER Floyd had beaten Oscar

    Lol... nice try.



    What? Oscar fought those guys 3-4 years before Floyd and lost to BOTH!!!


    Not sure what you meant by conveniently said AFTER Floyd beat Oscar BUT I presume its that Oscar couldn't pull the trigger anymore....right? Well, this statement was said numerous times. It wasn't convenient and actually this was said by Roach and he said that's why I believe Manny has a chance against Oscar ..... and he was correct!

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    • Originally posted by KingOfBox View Post
      OK at 140.. after blowing out Gatti; Floyd asked for Cotto... Bob said, "Cotto is still too green"

      Margarito was WBO but had his hands full with Clottey who was equally unimpressive at the time...


      WBC champs in 2006 = Judah and Baldomir
      WBA champs in 2006 = Judah, Collazo, Hatton
      IBF champs in 2006 = Judah

      Let me know where I missed.... How was Floyd going to fight Pacman, Cotto, Margs, Clottey in 2006 where he was "ducking" them?...

      Better yet... Why was Pacman fighting for a title that used to belong to Sergio Martinez right after he left it behind... THATS ducking!!! Conveniently, the real BEST at 154 were facing each other soon after when Sergio KO'd P-Willy... So Pacman vacates and Sulaiman leaves it vacant for another MEXICAN (JCCJr).. Keep it in the fam huh Don Sulaiman??.. LOL at the politics
      so floyd didn't fight margarito for years because he had his hands full with clottey in a fight he won but he fought judah who lost to a journeyman baldomir?

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      • Originally posted by KingOfBox View Post
        Same can be said about Salido.... Point is these guys beat THE MAN at the time!!!!!!

        Baldomir didn't just win... he ate his shots and "outboxed" the boxer and won by UD-12 in his own backyard!!!!

        What do you say about that??? Say what you want but this guy beat Gatti, Judah, and CLOTTEY!!!! ALL of who have been former WW/ JWW champs!!!

        Listen, I'm not saying Baldomir is the 10th wonder of the world... But he tasted championship status because he dared to be great... even though he was not... Get a dictionary... its called overachieving!!! Its why we watch the fights
        haha, that just downplays floyds resume even more. Baldomir, who "ate his shots" miracuously wins a TUNEUP against judah, floyds other big win at WW. Point being? Judah and Baldomir f'n suck to have on anyones WW resume. They may have had ABC titles, but that still doesnt make them better than a margarito, cotto, etc.

        Again, hype up baldomir if it makes you feel good that youre doing your just cause by defending floyd. Call him "baldomir the beast" all you want. It doesnt help you appear less ignorant.

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        • Originally posted by ADP02 View Post
          What? Oscar fought those guys 3-4 years before Floyd and lost to BOTH!!!


          Not sure what you meant by conveniently said AFTER Floyd beat Oscar BUT I presume its that Oscar couldn't pull the trigger anymore....right? Well, this statement was said numerous times. It wasn't convenient and actually this was said by Roach and he said that's why I believe Manny has a chance against Oscar ..... and he was correct!
          I don't give a **** if he lost... Thats his problem... Point is Oscar was making BIG moves in reaching to fight B-Hop for lineal MW and losing narrowly to Shane in his next-to-previous. Floyd beat a legit Oscar who was a comfortable WBC champ a JMW. Floyd has taken big breaks from boxing and still comes back and dominates.

          The Freddie Roach comment was conveniently said AFTER the fight with Floyd and before his fight with Manny... Couldn't pull the trigger but he somehow Knocked Out Mayorga in his previous.... INTERESTING

          MORE INTERESTING.... DLH hadn't seen 147 in 7 years!!!! you didn't want to bring that up huh???

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          • Manny easily.

            Floyd fought Shane at WW.

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            • Originally posted by daggum View Post
              so floyd didn't fight margarito for years because he had his hands full with clottey in a fight he won but he fought judah who lost to a journeyman baldomir?
              If anyone was a journeyman then, it was Margarito... The title he "captured" was vacant before him... Baldomir EARNED his title.

              Lets not beat around the bush anymore.... Margarito can fight Floyd 20 times and the result would be the same... Floyd by UD! 7 people have beaten Margarito!!!!! 7!!!!!!!! I think Floyd MIGHT be able to figure him out!!!!

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              • Originally posted by KingOfBox View Post
                If anyone was a journeyman then, it was Margarito... The title he "captured" was vacant before him... Baldomir EARNED his title.

                Lets not beat around the bush anymore.... Margarito can fight Floyd 20 times and the result would be the same... Floyd by UD! 7 people have beaten Margarito!!!!! 7!!!!!!!! I think Floyd MIGHT be able to figure him out!!!!
                Action speaks louder than words. Floyd pulled a lot excuses not to fight Margarito. He was scared just like he is now with Pacquaio. Also Floyd abruptly retired when Cotto was beating everyone. Same case scenario again with Pacquiao. History keep repeating itself and Floyd apologists are too gullible to acknowledge it.

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                • Originally posted by Xeraser View Post
                  Action speaks louder than words. Floyd pulled a lot excuses not to fight Margarito. He was scared just like he is now with Pacquaio. Also Floyd abruptly retired when Cotto was beating everyone. Same case scenario again with Pacquiao. History keep repeating itself and Floyd apologists are too gullible to acknowledge it.
                  no. arum SELF-admittedly prevented the fight with cotto, hatton, marg and DLH b.c he didnt want to pay floyd the 10mil to fight cotto and hatton b.c he didnt think the public had enough interest in the fight to generate that kind of money.

                  so STOP LYING. shall i post arums quote on the matter?

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                  • Originally posted by Xeraser View Post
                    Action speaks louder than words. Floyd pulled a lot excuses not to fight Margarito. He was scared just like he is now with Pacquaio. Also Floyd abruptly retired when Cotto was beating everyone. Same case scenario again with Pacquiao. History keep repeating itself and Floyd apologists are too gullible to acknowledge it.
                    He hasn't ducked anyone... Cotto has never said Floyd's name before... He probably can't even spell it... Margarito is trash man... leave it be already...

                    hiding?? from what????? He accepted the ridiculous $10 mil per pound demand which proves he ain't ducking. Bob probably though he would decline

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                    • Originally posted by yesir View Post
                      no. arum SELF-admittedly prevented the fight with cotto, hatton, marg and DLH b.c he didnt want to pay floyd the 10mil to fight cotto and hatton b.c he didnt think the public had enough interest in the fight to generate that kind of money.

                      so STOP LYING. shall i post arums quote on the matter?
                      LOL... Nice tale of the tape posts... Pac has been fighting at 147 since Morales Diaz and JMM...

                      NICE!!!! small huh??? so much for poor little Pacman???

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