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  • Originally posted by Xeraser View Post
    Action speaks louder than words. Floyd pulled a lot excuses not to fight Margarito. He was scared just like he is now with Pacquaio. Also Floyd abruptly retired when Cotto was beating everyone. Same case scenario again with Pacquiao. History keep repeating itself and Floyd apologists are too gullible to acknowledge it.
    This right here can't be stressed enough. Titles don't mean s h i t. Getting in the ring and f#cking someone top tier does. I mean for gods sake look at Salido. He can ask for a Gamboa rematch, lose again and Gamboa would have the title. That wouldn't be so hard for Gamboa to win a title considering he already beat Salido. Beating Salido to win that title wouldn't do sh it for Gamboa's legacy. Just like floid and his ***git titles he won off of boneheads that weren't top tier. It just isn't as hard as going against the cream of the crop and that is where floid has managed to fool every idiot that believes in titles(a system that is in desperate need of reform in boxing) and being undefeated.

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    • Originally posted by yesir View Post
      no. arum SELF-admittedly prevented the fight with cotto, hatton, marg and DLH b.c he didnt want to pay floyd the 10mil to fight cotto and hatton b.c he didnt think the public had enough interest in the fight to generate that kind of money.

      so STOP LYING. shall i post arums quote on the matter?
      Blame it on Arum. Ha ha ha.

      Mosley, Cotto and Margarito all fought each other. Where was Floyd?

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      • Originally posted by KingOfBox View Post
        If anyone was a journeyman then, it was Margarito... The title he "captured" was vacant before him... Baldomir EARNED his title.

        Lets not beat around the bush anymore.... Margarito can fight Floyd 20 times and the result would be the same... Floyd by UD! 7 people have beaten Margarito!!!!! 7!!!!!!!! I think Floyd MIGHT be able to figure him out!!!!
        margarito ranked number 2 in 2002
        margarito ranked number 3 in 2003
        margarito ranked number 1 in 2004
        margarito ranked number 1 in 2005
        margarito ranked number 1 in 2006
        margarito ranked number 4 in 2007
        margarito ranked number 1 in 2008

        baldomir came from obscurity to beat the 1-5 at welter(besides tune-ups) judah then vanished off the face of the earth.

        who was the journeyman and who was the top fighter? margarito or baldomir?

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        • Originally posted by yesir View Post
          no. arum SELF-admittedly prevented the fight with cotto, hatton, marg and DLH b.c he didnt want to pay floyd the 10mil to fight cotto and hatton b.c he didnt think the public had enough interest in the fight to generate that kind of money.

          so STOP LYING. shall i post arums quote on the matter?
          floyd ducked cotto. i've already explained this multiple times but your brain is unable to process new iinformation or logic.

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          • Originally posted by KingOfBox View Post
            I don't give a **** if he lost... Thats his problem... Point is Oscar was making BIG moves in reaching to fight B-Hop for lineal MW and losing narrowly to Shane in his next-to-previous. Floyd beat a legit Oscar who was a comfortable WBC champ a JMW. Floyd has taken big breaks from boxing and still comes back and dominates.

            The Freddie Roach comment was conveniently said AFTER the fight with Floyd and before his fight with Manny... Couldn't pull the trigger but he somehow Knocked Out Mayorga in his previous.... INTERESTING

            MORE INTERESTING.... DLH hadn't seen 147 in 7 years!!!! you didn't want to bring that up huh???

            You said, "I don't give a **** who Oscar lost too"

            Boy, if it was Manny, you and your Floyd friends would have been all saying Manny fought guys that lost .... PLEASE!!!


            Roach saying that Oscar couldn't pull the trigger had nothing to do with Floyd. He said it to state that Manny has a chance against Oscar because he noticed in his last fight with Floyd, Oscar just couldn't pull the trigger .... AND HE WAS RIGHT!!!


            As for your Mayorga comment ... SO WHAT!!!
            Once Mayorga started fighting at 154+ again, he hasn't done anything and has been KO'd 4 times!

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            • Originally posted by MRBOOMER View Post
              And why?

              And let's try to keep it on these two only instead of jumping to other era's
              Floyd has more fights at WW. Pac better at lower weight

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              • Originally posted by spyvsspy View Post
                Floyd's fight vs Marquez was plain garbage. Marquez went up two weight classes, floyd came in heavier than the limit by two pounds and floyd couldn't hurt the tinier man. Floyd is a waste of space in the WW division. Cotto's run in WW beats floyd's.
                id like to see your take on JMM fighting pac at 47 which pacroid will demand...this is going to be comic

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                • Originally posted by ADP02 View Post
                  Bad comparison.

                  Marquez did NOT belong at 147.

                  Hatton was a top 140 fighter and had yet to lose at that weight when Manny fought him.

                  Cotto's previous fight was fought at 146 while against Manny 145. Not a big difference PLUS there were no comments stating he had problems making the weight. Cotto, who you said was a shell of himself now has a title at 154. Not bad, hey?


                  Morales I and II were great fights. You can't take anything away from them as Morales was even winning and had control of the 2nd fight by about the 5-6th round .... At that point, HBO commentators were saying Manny may be too small for 130 ......Manny had a couple of huge rounds that turned that fight around.
                  jmm didnt fight at 47 and pac will want to fight him at 47, so what will you say then?

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                  • Originally posted by daggum View Post
                    floyd ducked cotto. i've already explained this multiple times but your brain is unable to process new iinformation or logic.
                    you can attempt to rewrite history but it doesnt change the facts but please proceed, really

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                    • Originally posted by daggum View Post
                      margarito ranked number 2 in 2002
                      margarito ranked number 3 in 2003
                      margarito ranked number 1 in 2004
                      margarito ranked number 1 in 2005
                      margarito ranked number 1 in 2006
                      margarito ranked number 4 in 2007
                      margarito ranked number 1 in 2008

                      baldomir came from obscurity to beat the 1-5 at welter(besides tune-ups) judah then vanished off the face of the earth.

                      who was the journeyman and who was the top fighter? margarito or baldomir?
                      So what Margarito was a very over rated fighter~ both are flawed fighters if your eyes can't tell you that your opinion means nothing.

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