Sugar and it's not even debatable yet. Depending on who's "list" you're talking about. He beat the best Lightweight ever, a top 5-10 WW/LMW, and the best Middleweight ever. Oh yeah and a prime Benitez who is a great HOF himself. It's hard to top that.
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Everytime I come in here lately, baracuda/puga is getting schooled.
Seeing him getting hammered in threads these last couple nights reminded me of this classic own,
Originally posted by baracuda View Postpaulie's was onlyeasy to hit because the guys he lost to were way faster than urango...n' dou , tackie,ngoujou, urango= same level fighters!Originally posted by ROA☪ View PostBaracuda, did you watch Malignaggi-Ngoudjo and Malignaggi-N'dou II?
I mean, actually watch them, not boxrec them?
Paulie arguably lost both...he was rocked to his boots by Herman.
Paulie isn't exclusively hittable to guys with Khan-speed and Cotto-ability and hasn't been for a while.Originally posted by baracuda View Postyes...and he didnt lose any of them fights...he outboxed the **** out of em....like i said ngoudjo and both n'dous are the same levl fighters as urango.....they are robots who are very very prdeictable!Originally posted by ROA☪ View PostYou haven't watched those fights, then. At all.
Be honest, admit it, then go and watch them. Or I will poll it in the forum.
And, BTW, Paul himself said that Ngoudjo was a very deceptive fighter and that observing his style outside the ring and being in there with it were two different things.Originally posted by sicko View PostOriginally posted by baracuda View Postyes...and he didnt lose any of them fights...he outboxed the **** out of em....like i said ngoudjo and both n'dous are the same levl fighters as urango.....they are robots who are very very prdeictable!Originally posted by ROA☪ View PostI was going to poll it, but one already existed,
check it,
http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/po...ts&pollid=7481
If you must presume to talk like an authority on boxing, at least watch it.Originally posted by BoxerDood View PostMalignaggi himself says that he lost the second N'Dou and Ngoudjo fights.Originally posted by ROA☪ View PostWhere did my boy baracuda go???Originally posted by ROA☪ View PostOriginally posted by Stones! View Post^^^^^^^^ WOW.
ROA just slam ducked a ******* into oblivion.
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Originally posted by puga View Postthere you go again listing a bunck of nobodies exept kalambay...erik>>>>>kalambay
sasakul was the lineal champ at 112 mofo, and he beat a top 10 P4p, i repeat top 10 p4p fighter prior to losing to pac....when has kalule done that?...never
again 4 names does'nt mean your greater than pac....pac has more than 4 names on his resume.....titles and award too , pac ****s on leonards....
But, he was not in the top ten P4P when Sasakul beat him. I know because I followed his career very closely as he was a brilliant fighter, but he took a year off in '96 by fighting a couple of cans and it dropped him out of the top ten. He wasn't rated in the P4P rankings when he fought Sasakul in the rematch and lost, then retired.
That fight was also not just before he lost to Pac. It was over a year and three fights removed and like I said, he wasn't in the top, it was his last fight before retiring and he was clearly not the same fighter as when he beat Sasakul in his prime easily.
Still, Sasakul is a good win for Pac and better than many, many others that get more attention. Sasakul was a good fighter and a better win than Diaz, Ledwaba, Solis etc. They are sad wins to be mentioned among his best. Sasakul was a very good fighter, but still not as good as Kalule. They have similar careers in a way, but Kalule has more good wins than Sasakul, whose best is well and truly Yuri.
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Originally posted by BallisticAffair View PostThread was 20+ pages deep when I got here. It's hard to add much to what's been said, except to restate that you're a moron.
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Originally posted by puga View Postthen why did your pretending to know anything even bother coming?.....you coulda just red k me and leave a negative comment ...but instaed you chose to come here and try to get attention ...
Originally posted by puga View Postwhat's that gotta do with anything ..or with me....
2. it shows you exposing yourself as the kind of clown who talks about fights he didn't actually watch.
3. it's funny to point it out.
Have a nice night.
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Originally posted by BennyST View PostReally? Did he really? I'm going to say that you are talking about Arbchakov? He was, at one point, a top ten briefly, but it was before he ever fought Sasakul which was at the end of his career in the last fight before he retired and was clearly not the same fighter he had been in his prime....like when he beat Sasakul rather easily a couple of years before that.
But, he was not in the top ten P4P when Sasakul beat him. I know because I followed his career very closely as he was a brilliant fighter, but he took a year off in '96 by fighting a couple of cans and it dropped him out of the top ten. He wasn't rated in the P4P rankings when he fought Sasakul in the rematch and lost, then retired.
That fight was also not just before he lost to Pac. It was over a year and three fights removed and like I said, he wasn't in the top, it was his last fight before retiring and he was clearly not the same fighter as when he beat Sasakul in his prime easily.
Still, Sasakul is a good win for Pac and better than many, many others that get more attention. Sasakul was a good fighter and a better win than Diaz, Ledwaba, Solis etc. They are sad wins to be mentioned among his best. Sasakul was a very good fighter, but still not as good as Kalule. They have similar careers in a way, but Kalule has more good wins than Sasakul, whose best is well and truly Yuri.
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Originally posted by puga View Postwell, i believ youre wrong....he was int the top 10 p4p when he lost to sasakul...when he first became p4p , he never took a time off like youre claiming and he never lost until chachai......sasakul >>>>>kalule....
1.Roy Jones Jr.
2.Oscar De La Hoya
3.Pernell Whitaker
4.Felix Trinidad
5.Ricardo Lopez
6.Junior Jones
7.Kostya Tszyu
8.Terry Norris
9.Evander Holyfield
10.Mark Johnson
weird. I dont see Yuri....and the last time he fought before Sasakul was 1996...huh...thats over a year of inactivity...
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Originally posted by Steak View Post1996
1.Roy Jones Jr.
2.Oscar De La Hoya
3.Pernell Whitaker
4.Felix Trinidad
5.Ricardo Lopez
6.Junior Jones
7.Kostya Tszyu
8.Terry Norris
9.Evander Holyfield
10.Mark Johnson
weird. I dont see Yuri....and the last time he fought before Sasakul was 1996...huh...thats over a year of inactivity...
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Originally posted by puga View Postthought you were done with me?...lol...you dont see him thats coz your looking at a p4p list at a year end...like one of the poster already said he was in the top 10 p4p very briefly...sasakul fought him in nov of 97...he could've been rated right in between that year.....
1.Pernell Whitaker
2.Roy Jones Jr.
3.Ricardo Lopez
4.Oscar De La Hoya
5.Felix Trinidad
6.Yuri Arbachakov
7.Kostya Tszyu
8.Rid**** Bowe
9.Marco Antonio Barrera
10.Terry Norris
he dropped out by the end of 1996.
and youre suggesting he moved back into the p4p lists inbetween his last 1996 fight and Sasakul? during a year+ period he was completely inactive? very, very interesting...
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