Welterweight ring rankings may 2009, must read

[Khalid X]

Exactly.

Margarito is a matchup nightmare for Bradley. Tim does a lot of things well but at his core he's a pressure fighter. So basically you'd have a small, feather-fisted, decent but not great stamina pressure fighter taking on a massive, heavy-hitting, iron jawed, superb stamina pressure fighter. If a broken face didn't stop margarito from constantly coming forward and throwing bombs- head butts won't do the trick.

If Bradley signs with top rank next month maybe we'll see him take on those guys. But he'd be a shoe-in to fight Manny either in the fall or next spring.

Yeah man, I wouldn't be shocked if Clottey dominated Bradley either. 140 is over-rated as hell and I would favor Marquez over all those guys (except Khan).

[B.U.R.N.E.R]

Mike we agree for the first time in a while.

Bradley gets smoked by this version of Maragrito. I didnt think he even looked that good vs Abregu. And I think Bradleys chin is suspect.

No power, no height, no reach = No chance.

[Vasyl’s dad]

I think he can out point both. He's not a great boxer, not a great counter puncher but he's not bad in those departments either man. He can also outwork and out hustle both at this stage..

Like I said he doesn't do anything great but he does everything good. And, his intangibles is what sets him apart.

Margarito even now would beat the **** out of Bradley. Tim is a brawler more than a boxer. Hes not a fancy pants boxer who uses technique. He goes in there and ****s.

[jrosales13]

Margarito even now would beat the **** out of Bradley. Tim is a brawler more than a boxer. Hes not a fancy pants boxer who uses technique. He goes in there and ****s.

This version of Marg isn't beating the shit out of anybody.

Marg is not the same, he's done, but whatever carnal.

[jrosales13]

Yeah man, I wouldn't be shocked if Clottey dominated Bradley either. 140 is over-rated as hell and I would favor Marquez over all those guys (except Khan).

Besides a shot to shit, undersized Corrales who the fuck has Clottey dominated?

But, you wouldn't be surprised if he dominated Bradley?

[Dirk Diggler UK]

To be fair, in May 2009 Manny had a fight signed (Ricky Hatton) and once that was over he proceeded to fight every guy listed 1-5. You act like he could have fought them all at once.

No I didnt, I just pointed out that the timing of some of them was convienient. Especially Mosley. I had no real issue with them avoiding Mosley for Cotto. First welter fight against Miguel Cotto is not bad going considering Floyds first welter fight was against Sharmba Mitchell....

But fighting Mosley now just makes them look pathetic

[tibbar]

Ring Magazine Welterweight Rankings may 2009
1. Shane Mosley
2. Miguel Cotto
3. Antonio Margarito
4. Joshua Clottey
5. Manny Pacqiao

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in two years pac will have defeated all of the 4 above him 2 years ago, time for you haters to show the sport of boxing some respect

thats asking too much from *****s who are not really fans of boxing, posers do not understand.

[mikemurni]

To be fair, in May 2009 Manny had a fight signed (Ricky Hatton) and once that was over he proceeded to fight every guy listed 1-5. You act like he could have fought them all at once.

Let's take 168 for example. Nov 2009 all of those guys were either undefeated, or at most, had one loss on their resume. Let's say one guy was able to beat the other fighters and emerge as the top guy. Well more than likely it would take 2 years plus and in that time, some of those guys were bound to lose. If Ward wins the super six, beats Bute and Dirrell, would you really gripe about the fact that his Froch win came after Kessler beat him, his Abraham win after Froch and Dirrell shut him....just to name a few.

I say this because people don't realize how hard it is to catch someone when their at their absolute best. Sure he could have fought Shane over Cotto, but It's really hard to argue which of those two fighters were better at the time.

Manny did what he had to do and if he beats Floyd and Ortiz...then he pretty much cleaned out the WW division (which would be an impressive feat in itself).

I agree with this. Pac is slowly cleaning out the WW division. There was a thread here before containing a list of fighters that would beat Pac at 147. It contained all those fighters plus Floyd, Berto, and Williams. This was a thread after the Hatton fight. That list is pretty much cleaned out. Because I think he can beat Berto and Ortiz. You can even throw Bradley's name too.

Its a 50/50 fight with Williams and Floyd though.

[Khalid X]

Besides a shot to shit, undersized Corrales who the fuck has Clottey dominated?

But, you wouldn't be surprised if he dominated Bradley?

Yeah I wouldn't be shocked as Bradley is just too small for WW and doesn't have to physical tools to compete with any of the top fighters there. Maybe now because WW is ****, but if were talking about guys like Cotto, Cintron, Margarito, Williams, Clottey etc....then those dudes are simply too big for him.

[jrosales13]

Yeah I wouldn't be shocked as Bradley is just too small for WW and doesn't have to physical tools to compete with any of the top fighters there. Maybe now because WW is ****, but if were talking about guys like Cotto, Cintron, Margarito, Williams, Clottey etc....then those dudes are simply too big for him.

But, again Top Rank don't look so much at the names but the version of the fighter.

What version are we talking about?

If we talking about Cotto 2009 or earlier, Margarito 2008 or earlier then OK. of course Bradley can't compete against these WWs.

But, if we're talking about 147 against the likes of today's version of Clottey, Cotto, Margarito. Then yes Bradley can compete.

And, Bradley could compete with any version of Clottey. It's not only about the tools but also the intangibles and Clottey is a mental midget always has been. He's a good loser and he will find a way to lose. Bradley is a winner he will find a way to win.