Welterweight ring rankings may 2009, must read

[lfc19titles]

But, do you not agree that a lot can happen in 2 years?

Like Mosley getting straight dominated and only having won ONE fight at WW in the 3 years? And, then go on to look like straight garbage in his last fight.

Or Marg getting obliterated, suspended for a whole year. And not rank in any division at all?

does not affect the quality of the boxer in a huge way, marg, cotto and clottey were at their physical best and it showed when they fought pac.

[leone24]

Can't fight everyone at once. Again, in his first 4 fights after Hatton, he took out all the guys that were ranked 1-4 at the time he began his campaign, with Margarito being given 3 extra lbs to work with (17 lb weight advantage in the ring, on top of height/reach mismatch), so whining about Cotto losing 1 lb is moot.

Now that's what a hit list looks like

Do you not understand the sport? size doesn't win matches SKILL DOES. Margarito was flat footed, come forward, no defence fighter, and since the devastating mosley loss, his punch output has also decreased, so was not the same ruthless volume puncher he once was. Pac had all the necessary tools to win against the very vulnerable maragrito. REMEMBER skills win matches not size.

[jrosales13]

Really how do you think Bradley or Ortiz who are ranked high in the WW division would fare against those guys in the list. Because I see it as 50/50 fight if you ask me.

I don't Bradley is ranked at the moment. But, he might be. Anyways I will favor both over this version of Marg and Shane.

[Twako]

Doubt that.

excluding those top5, create a top5 ww list anytime from that point in 2009 to the present and see who you think beats who.

[jrosales13]

does not affect the quality of the boxer in a huge way, marg, cotto and clottey were at their physical best and it showed when they fought pac.

Cotto good win, Clottey solid/ok win.

Marg was not a good win at all man. Stop trying to justify it. Ali was physically best when he fought Holmes. He was in great shape. Just not the same fighter. You can get in the best shape possible. However, if you're damn near done as a fighter it doesn't matter what shape you're in.

[jrosales13]

excluding those top5, create a top5 ww list anytime from that point in 2009 to the present and see who you think beats who.

I already said I would favor Bradley and Ortiz to beat Mosley and Marg. I would also think Berto could hold his own against both.

This is not the same Mosley from 2-3 years ago and even that Mosley wasn't prime. This is not the same Margarito of 3 years ago. Just not the same fighters.

[TOBYLEE1]

read the post

"In two years"

once it hits may, it will have been 2 years and pac fights shane on the 7th, so yes in 2 years pac will have done it

Yup, you type will have defeated, the Mosley fight hasn't happened yet. This is boxing and anything can happen.

But you are right that the timing to get Mosley is now

[Dirk Diggler UK]

does not affect the quality of the boxer in a huge way, marg, cotto and clottey were at their physical best and it showed when they fought pac.

In what way did it show?

[Dirk Diggler UK]

I already said I would favor Bradley and Ortiz to beat Mosley and Marg. I would also think Berto could hold his own against both.

This is not the same Mosley from 2-3 years ago and even that Mosley wasn't prime. This is not the same Margarito of 3 years ago. Just not the same fighters.

Seriously? Bradley?

[jrosales13]

Seriously? Bradley?

I like Bradley, he finds a way to win. I know you don't like him, maybe cuz' his Khan rival for supremacy of the JWW division? But, whatever he's a damn good fighter that's a tough out for anybody.