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  • DUCK FACE
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    #51
    Why is Manny ducking Kell Brook that's what i want to know.. there is no doubt in my mind Kell beats Mosley, Clottey, Cotto

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      #52
      Originally posted by jrosales13
      I like Bradley, he finds a way to win. I know you don't like him, maybe cuz' his Khan rival for supremacy of the JWW division? But, whatever he's a damn good fighter that's a tough out for anybody.
      I dont not like him, I just dont rate him that highly as a fighter. Certainly not enough to move up and beat top welterweights. He has no standout weapons that can trouble anyone significant at 147 imo. Ortiz has size and power. Khan has height, reach, speed. Bradley has.....headbutts? I mean Im half joking but really,its kinda true.

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        #53
        Originally posted by lfc19titles
        Ring Magazine Welterweight Rankings may 2009
        1. Shane Mosley
        2. Miguel Cotto
        3. Antonio Margarito
        4. Joshua Clottey
        5. Manny Pacqiao

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        in two years pac will have defeated all of the 4 above him 2 years ago, time for you haters to show the sport of boxing some respect
        1. Shane Mosley (HASNT WON A FIGHT IN almost 3 YEARS, and 39 years old)
        2. Miguel Cotto (Catchweight, cotto weight drained, and a damaged GOODS)
        3. Antonio Margarito (Catchweight, Margarito weight drained, and coming off a Suspend.)
        4. Joshua Clottey (Name his career best win?) He is the best loser in the ww division history!

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        • obie
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          #54
          Originally posted by FUTURE QUEEN
          Why is Manny ducking Kell Brook that's what i want to know.. there is no doubt in my mind Kell beats Mosley, Clottey, Cotto
          Welcome to the dreamer's lounge.

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          • jrosales13
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            #55
            Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK
            I dont not like him, I just dont rate him that highly as a fighter. Certainly not enough to move up and beat top welterweights. He has no standout weapons that can trouble anyone significant at 147 imo. Ortiz has size and power. Khan has height, reach, speed. Bradley has.....headbutts? I mean Im half joking but really,its kinda true.
            I think his intangibles is his standout weapon. His heart, toughness, will to win, refuse to lose type of attitude is what makes him one of the best fighters P4P right now.

            I agree, that physically, skills, talent he has no standout weapon. He doesn't do anything great. But, he does everything good you know what I'm saying?

            Do I think he could compete with Pac, Floyd or even that version of Cotto that Pac faced. Probably not. But, with his intangibles do I think he could get a W over this version of Mosley and Margarito? I do. Take into account that I'm not basing that off solely on how highly I rate Bradley. But, also on how much I feel both Mosley and Marg have falling off.

            If we were talking about the Mosley and Marg of a few years ago then by all means it would be a different story.

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              #56
              Originally posted by jrosales13
              I don't Bradley is ranked at the moment. But, he might be. Anyways I will favor both over this version of Marg and Shane.
              I dont know about that.. Marg and Mosley are a lot heavy handed compared to the pity patters that you have at 140. Add to that Mosley and Marg height and reach, would likely offset any boxing that Ortiz, Bradley and Berto would throw at them, assuming that they even try to outbox Mosley and Marg. Ofcourse they can always make the fight a stinker, the way Mora did the last time, but given the type of fighters Ortiz, Bradley, and Berto are, I dont think they would.

              Not everybody fights like Floyd. Sooner or later these guys are goin' to connect (and a lot more frequent), and we will see how Ortiz, Bradley and Berto's chin can hold up on successive punches coming from a legitimate 147 lb fighter.
              Last edited by mikemurni; 04-22-2011, 01:39 PM.

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                #57
                Originally posted by jrosales13
                I think his intangibles is his standout weapon. His heart, toughness, will to win, refuse to lose type of attitude is what makes him one of the best fighters P4P right now.

                I agree, that physically, skills, talent he has no standout weapon. He doesn't do anything great. But, he does everything good you know what I'm saying?

                Do I think he could compete with Pac, Floyd or even that version of Cotto that Pac faced. Probably not. But, with his intangibles do I think he could get a W over this version of Mosley and Margarito? I do. Take into account that I'm not basing that off solely on how highly I rate Bradley. But, also on how much I feel both Mosley and Marg have falling off.

                If we were talking about the Mosley and Marg of a few years ago then by all means it would be a different story.
                I dont see how he beats either. Hes not a good enough boxer to outbox them. Doesnt have anything to keep them off.

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                  #58
                  Originally posted by obie
                  Welcome to the dreamer's lounge.
                  Kell Brook is better then Amir Khan mate..

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                    #59
                    Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK
                    I dont see how he beats either. Hes not a good enough boxer to outbox them. Doesnt have anything to keep them off.
                    But, in the same token Marg doesn't have anything in his arsenal right now that could cause Bradley to worry.

                    Mosley has power still but can't pull the trigger fast enough nor really can fight for more than a few rounds it seems.

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                      #60
                      current versions of margo and shane ... ya id favor bradley. especially considering that margo is coming off another ass beating and already looked close to done before pac got thru with him. and shanes got nthing left but his punch ... bradley's def an overachiever and his intangibles are his best attributes, but hes not a bad boxer either ...

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