Welterweight ring rankings may 2009, must read

[IronDanHamza]

But, do you not agree that a lot can happen in 2 years?

Like Mosley getting straight dominated and only having won ONE fight at WW in the 3 years? And, then go on to look like straight garbage in his last fight.

Or Marg getting obliterated, suspended for a whole year. And not rank in any division at all?

Of course.

It seems people are struggling to grasp that.

[victorythagr8]

Now did he fight these guys when they were at this rank? No and that is why he gets flack. The only person he fought that was true to this ranking was clottey. Stop trying to rewrite history. I was there.

When he fought cotto, that cotto was number 3 due to the fact Floyd bump cotto down just for coming back from retirement and beating a light weight at 147. And what is funny that cotto is currently number 1 at JR middle weight according to ring's ranking. Add the fact that shane is currently 4 at 147 due for it to be a weak ass division.

Margarito lost his ranking due to him moving up in weight.

Still Clottey, Cotto, marg right now>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Berto

Berto only got a high rank because Clottey, Cotto, Marg, pac and shane were too busy fight eachother. Outside of Floyd and Pacquaio that 147 is weak as hell to the point Ortiz and Berto are in the top 5.

Berto hasnt even earn his ranking at all and has not fought any top 5 WW unless we count Ortiz after he beat berto. And we all know berto didn't expect Ortiz to fight like this is his last chance of redemption especially seeing all his tweets of overconfidence. Berto has failed every single time he stepped up to competition(collazo and a motivated Ortiz).

Again nobody outside of floyd in 147 will be a threat to pacquaio..vice versa for floyd. And at 140...the only guy who i see who is talented enough to make a decent fight is Bradley and that is because of his head, and his great stamina and him actually have a great work ethic and lots of heart.

Because of the poor comp at 140-147 that the only threat we can come with is Martinez who currently is campaigning at 160 and is the lineal champ there. And people wanting that fight is unknownly saying Pacquaio and floyd is so great that the only guy who can challenge them two is a guy who is fighting two weight classes above him.

[jrosales13]

A lot of things happen in 2 years when you actually fight each other.....no ducking allowed.

That's right, doesn't change the fact that a lot can happen where wins doesn't count as much as it would before right?

[Twako]

But, do you not agree that a lot can happen in 2 years?

Like Mosley getting straight dominated and only having won ONE fight at WW in the 3 years? And, then go on to look like straight garbage in his last fight.

Or Marg getting obliterated, suspended for a whole year. And not rank in any division at all?

still, that top 5 will most likely beat any other top 5 WW list anyone will create from that point on.

[jrosales13]

still, that top 5 will most likely beat any other top 5 WW list anyone will create from that point on.

Doubt that.

[Jack Napier]

Ring Magazine Welterweight Rankings may 2009
1. Shane Mosley
2. Miguel Cotto
3. Antonio Margarito
4. Joshua Clottey
5. Manny Pacqiao

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in two years pac will have defeated all of the 4 above him 2 years ago, time for you haters to show the sport of boxing some respect

Cotto and Clottey are good wins for Pac
Tony somewhat less so
Shane fight just a tuneup

[mikemurni]

The fact is you put those names in Bradley or Ortiz "list", or any of the top 140 fighters who are moving up to 147, or even any top 147 fighters now, and I guarantee you that it would have merited a lot of adulation and respect.

But the fact that he was P4P#1 fighter when he moved up in weight so the standards were raised a lot higher, therefore it was met with a lot of criticisms especially with people who had agenda and hate towards Pac.

Plus the fact that any 147 fighter not named Floyd would definitely raise a lot of eyebrows especially on guys who want to see him beat. Because right now, outside of Floyd (which is a 50/50 fight, imo), no 147/140 fighter would beat Pac at this stage of his career... not even close.

[mikemurni]

Doubt that.

Really how do you think Bradley or Ortiz who are ranked high in the WW division would fare against those guys in the list. Because I see it as 50/50 fight if you ask me.

[Chups]

That's right, doesn't change the fact that a lot can happen where wins doesn't count as much as it would before right?

True.....but if a boxer really made a list for himself....it's called "sticking to the plan"

[obie]

With the exception of Floyd, nobody else can really say that they are better.