I'd give Ortiz a better shot at beating Mayweather than Manny...............

[Walt Liquor]

Assuming all this is very possible, wouldn't it still be easier to take away Ortiz' jab and avoid his cross with a shell than it would be to disarm Pacquiao's left who has consistently been breaking down elite opponents? Especially considering the majority of confidence in Ortiz stems from a single fight?

What you're asking Mayweather to do to Manny is more difficult than what he would need to do against Ortiz. Disarm Pacquiao's left or disarm an inconsistent Ortiz with one fight at the weight class who mostly sets his feet, squares and loads up power punches.

Zab and chop chop got the straight left in and were not floyd's more stellar performances, but Floyd is gonna shut down manny's left and make it an easy fight.

Right. Is do just making shi t up for fun in here,

[johncods]

Shoot urself in the face.

[NinjaMan!]

I'd give Ortiz a better shot at beating Mayweather than Manny, cause Manny has no chance imo.

Yeah Manny has no chance because Gayweather would rather kill himself then get in the ring with him.

[Boxing Scene]

Mayweather would beat Ortiz easily. This is crazy.

[The Gambler1981]

Well they would be different fights, you have pretty much laid out why I don't really give Manny much of a shot against Floyd outside of straight out being a much better man that takes everything and is able to dish out more.

Floyd fights smart and has the range advantage, there is no way that he does not make Manny pay for every inch of real estate, then when Manny gets into his range Floyd would most likely step inside tie up then work from there with his forearm push.


Ortiz I don't know, that could be an interesting fight I certainly would not favor Ortiz but I would not count him out if he is determined like he was this weekend because there is really no doubting his ability.

[wazaa.]

What a dumb poster.

[-EX-]

Good one!

[The Gambler1981]

Zab and chop chop got the straight left in and were not floyd's more stellar performances, but Floyd is gonna shut down manny's left and make it an easy fight.

Right. Is do just making shi t up for fun in here,

Chop didn't land a straight left, he landed some looping lefts and that was the punch that hurt Floyd. Zab is very familiar (sparring, amateurs at the same time, friends) with Floyd so that he was able to work out how to get at Floyd a bit should not be surprising either.

Those guys also have longer arms than Manny so while they landed while Floyd was in range does not mean Manny can do the same.

[FeFist]

Even though I don't always agree with the thread started ( and I don't exactly agree with him now) I respect his opinion far more than some of the people in this thread as he shows reasoning/understanding as opposed to hopping on a bandwagon and forming an opinion based on the hype they hear.

[FerdinandMarcos]

I'd give Ortiz a better shot at beating Mayweather than Manny, cause Manny has no chance imo.


Ortiz is more dangerous to Mayweather than what Manny is imo. Ortiz is big, strong, powerful, consistent, a lefty, but one who has a good jab, and sound fundamentals.

A worry for Ortiz in a fight with Mayweather, is whether Ortiz is good enough at cutting the ring down when pressing, if Mayweather was able to draw him foward and was trying to use his movement to offset him.

Ortiz is a skilled, consistent, 5ft 9, power punching lefty. That would give Mayweather problems imo.


I give Manny little chance of beating Mayweather.

Manny's defense isn't good enough when on the the front foot, he doesn't have the ability to create his openings aside from feinting his way in, as he has no jab. Mayweather would paint Manny with lead right hands, counters uppercuts when he was shooting in with the big left, offset him with movement imo. Mayweather just has more ways to win against him, than what he has against Mayweather, not to mention the physical disparity between the two in terms of length.

I'd rather seen Mayweather vs Ortiz, only I think Floyd is smart enough to understand that Ortiz potentially posses a lot more problems stylistically.

Ortiz has ZERO jab.