I'd give Ortiz a better shot at beating Mayweather than Manny...............

[KingOfBox]

Ortiz landed 2 jabs against Peterson and 15 against Berto.... lame number against Maidana as well... Floyd has better jab numbers in 3 rounds against Shane than Victor has in his total last 3 fights. Ortiz has tools... but he ain't jabbing anything.

Also, you mentioned he was consistent???

WHAT?!?! I'm a fan of Victor but he is far from consistent at anything...

Did you watch the Peterson fight? Maidana?

vs Berto he overcame alot and showed heart and grit but they both took alot of punishment. Victor needs to improve his overall defense, he needs to JAB more than 20 times a fight, and he needs to move his damn head. His head is the reason for all the problems he has. He is such an easy target because it doesn't move.

I just can't see Vic troubling Floyd with no jab... I don't think Pacman could give him problems either

[V.WEBB]

He wouldn't fight Ortiz imo. Only way Mayweather would fight someone like him, is if he lost his zero to someone else, was broke, and needed money, and that was the viable option to make the most money.

Haven't we heard this before? Someone else being more dangerous for Floyd than Manny? Namely....Mosley? I'd like to see the fight, I think it would be a good tune-up since he's been off a year. The only question that I have is, will GBP be willing to put him in there with Mayweather yet?

Thought this would be a nice little bump as I take a break from writing my paper.

[-MAKAVELLI-]

I'd give Ortiz a better shot at beating Mayweather than Manny, cause Manny has no chance imo.


Ortiz is more dangerous to Mayweather than what Manny is imo. Ortiz is big, strong, powerful, consistent, a lefty, but one who has a good jab,

stopped right here bro