better resume..hopkins,pacman

[Rassclot]

No not period bro. A lot of people myself included was calling for him to fight Shane.

You are putting too much stock into size rather than the fighter.

He beat Shane =(

[B.U.R.N.E.R]

Have to say I completely disagree here. P4P I would pick the Barrera Pacquiao beat the first time and the Morales Pacquiao lost to to beat Hopkins. Marquez would give Hopkins a hell of a fight and could beat him too. I don't think Hopkins ever fought fighters that good.

And Pacquiao does not lose to the Calzaghe or Wright Hopkins fought, he obliterates any version of Taylor or Pascal, and you already said he would beat the rest, and easily at that.

Hopkins P4P wise would completely undress JMM, Morales and Barerra. Those are mismatches bro. Style wise. Who has those 3 fought with the boxing skills of Hopkins?

[B.U.R.N.E.R]

He beat Shane =(

And?

He barely beat him.


So wait Margarito never had any claim to being a top WW because he lost to Paul Williams?



Mosley was the man. Not Cotto.

[-Kev-]

Have to say I completely disagree here. P4P I would pick the Barrera Pacquiao beat the first time and the Morales Pacquiao lost to to beat Hopkins. Marquez would give Hopkins a hell of a fight and could beat him too. I don't think Hopkins ever fought fighters that good, except Jones.

And Pacquiao does not lose to the Calzaghe or Wright Hopkins fought, he obliterates any version of Taylor or Pascal, and you already said he would beat the rest, and easily at that.

Pound 4 pound I can't see Morales or Barrera beating Hopkins. You are underrating Hopkins here. These guys lost to Zahir Raheem and Junior Jones, of course Hopkins beats them too, and worst.

[Rassclot]

What an idiot.

Toney's wins over Holyfield, Nunn, McCallum 2x, and Barkley are better than any win on Cotto's resume. Hell Cotto's best win was barely a win[Mosley].

Holyfield was about 5 years too shot. As good of a win as ODLH on Manny's resume. You idiots don't count that win though right? So why do you count Holyfield? self contradicting idiots.


McCallum is a first ballot Hall of famer? Is Nunn? What about Barkley?



Cotto beat Shane. That is a first ballot hall of famer. Mosley > All those wins. Period.

[IronDanHamza]

Yea the speed of the computers they have here in Puerto Rico is unmatched

****ing Rican!

No but seriously, I can't stand this whole 'size' **** with Pac's wins.

Margarito isn't even close to his best win, at all. Hell, it's not even a legit win for him. Why all the 'size' this and 'size' that? It's so ******.

Compare Whitakers win over Nelson to Pac's win over Margarito. I guess 'size' means Pac's win over Margarito is better.

So ****ing idiotic seriously.

[jrosales13]

Discounting the the wildfire that interrupted his training camp at Big Bear Lake leading up to that fight, I'm not disagreeing with the facts above.

I just don't agree with the opinionated conclusions that follow up with that. Personally I like a win over a 40+ and 0 fighter who was at the very top of the P4P List and had a Middleweight World Belt to boost as preparation for 160. But that's just me.

That's like if Sergio Martinez knocked out 41-0 Floyd Mayweather in a TItle defense. Years later you can brush that win aside and critique it as a win over a smaller weight fighter, but it was a great win at that time, against a P4P great.

I'm not discounting the Tito win at all. I have even defended it on this very threat. Saying is a good win. Is a better win than the Cotto, Hatton, Marg, Oscar win.

However, is not a greater win than the Barrera win. Yes is nice to have an undefeated record. But, people to much stock on W-L record. Especially on here and I don't get that. That really means little, it really does. But, whatever.

Fact is, and as much as it hurts me to say and people here who know me knows how I feel about Tito, Barrera is a greater fighter than Trinidad was period. And, Barrera was in his prime, or the very worse at the tail end of his prime. Was the king of the featherweight division and an elite P4P level as well.

The Barrera win>>>>The Tito win.

[B.U.R.N.E.R]

Holyfield was about 5 years too shot. As good of a win as ODLH on Manny's resume. You idiots don't count that win though right? So why do you count Holyfield? self contradicting idiots.


McCallum is a first ballot Hall of famer? Is Nunn? What about Barkley?



Cotto beat Shane. That is a first ballot hall of famer. Mosley > All those wins. Period.

Dude is this a serious post?

[-Kev-]

Hopkins P4P wise would completely undress JMM, Morales and Barerra. Those are mismatches bro. Style wise. Who has those 3 fought with the boxing skills of Hopkins?

Who would have ever thought that Raheem and Junior Jones would own Morales and Barrera?

Come on, Hopkins is a whole 'nother level than the Raheems and Junior's of the world.

I give Marquez a better shot at Hopkins, than Morales and Barrera. Ultimately Hopkins ****s all 3.

[bojangles1987]

Hopkins P4P wise would completely undress JMM, Morales and Barerra. Those are mismatches bro. Style wise. Who has those 3 fought with the boxing skills of Hopkins?

Except for Jones, who Hopkins lost to, who has Hopkins fought with the boxing skills of Morales, Barrera, and Marquez? Those three are all tremendous boxers.