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  • Rassclot
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    #51
    Originally posted by LarryX2011
    why??prove me wrong..tito was a 3 divisiion champ,undefeated and a beast....cotto,margo,clottey,nor hatton can hold a candle to tito..and if you wanna count that oscar win then lets count hopkins rjj win
    Cotto = 3 division champ


    Pac moved onto beat Cotto to collect his 7th divsional champsionship. breaking the world record. history making achievement.

    Pac beating Cotto would equate to Bernard moving up to Cruiserweight at the time and taking out Roy or James Toney. Either of those wins would be greater than against Trinidad who has a big name but was a smaller man.


    Do you get it?

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    • jrosales13
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      #52
      Originally posted by LarryX2011
      tyson>>spinks imo
      You mean as a HW right?

      Because, P4P ATG Spinks is arguably top 50 ATG, while Tyson will be maybe top 100 but in the low 100's like 90-100...

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      • -Kev-
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        #53
        Originally posted by ThePunchingBag
        He's saying that in lil guy vs. big guy fights, the big guy generally gets less credit for winning than if the smaller guy had won.
        He wouldn't only be losing to a bigger guy, also a 40 year old, who hasn't won a fight in 2 and a half years, and the last guy he fought, he drew with, and that guy went on to clearly lose to a journeyman. Meaning Mosley couldn't do what a journeyman did. Mosley, a guy who was beaten by some one who is supposedly scared of Pacquiao.

        That's who Pacquiao will be losing to.

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          #54
          Originally posted by Rassclot
          Cotto = 3 division champ


          Pac moved onto beat Cotto to collect his 7th divsional champsionship. breaking the world record. history making achievement.

          Pac beating Cotto would equate to Bernard moving up to Cruiserweight at the time and taking out Roy or James Toney. Either of those wins would be greater than against Trinidad who has a big name but was a smaller man.


          Do you get it?
          Oh no, Tito win over Cotto win. That's not even debatable. A win over Cotto>>>>Oscar, Pavlik, and Winky...But, not Tito.

          However, Barrera win>>>>>Tito win.

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          • IronDanHamza
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            #55
            People are using Tito as an example for Hopkins being greater but;

            Pacs win over Barrera>>>Hopkins win over Tito.

            I think it's close. But Pac edges it for me.

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              #56
              Originally posted by .WaRCoTTo.
              Definitely Pacquiao...

              Hopkins beat DLH and Tito at Middleweight and beat Pavlik and Winky at 170lbs..all of those boxers weren't in their weightclass when he beat them..
              IF you're gonna be negative like that and hold that against him, then you better be consistent and talk about Pacquiao's catchweight fights.

              Cotto at 145 for a Welterweight Belt, Margarito at 150 for a Jr.Middleweight belt, Eric Morales who came off of a loss, Shot weight drained Delahoya, bypassing the LIghtweight division, only fighting a paper champ in David Diaz.

              Oh yes, that's how it goes.

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              • jrosales13
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                #57
                Originally posted by Rassclot
                you need to see a doctor.
                I think you do if you think a win over Marg, Hatton, Oscar, or Cotto is better than a Tito win.

                Barrera win, yes no doubt. But, really the other guys? No man stop it.

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                • Larry the boss
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                  #58
                  Originally posted by Rassclot
                  Cotto = 3 division champ


                  Pac moved onto beat Cotto to collect his 7th divsional champsionship. breaking the world record. history making achievement.

                  Pac beating Cotto would equate to Bernard moving up to Cruiserweight at the time and taking out Roy or James Toney. Either of those wins would be greater than against Trinidad who has a big name but was a smaller man
                  .


                  Do you get it?
                  **** size homie..im talking talent.....anyone can move up in weight and cherry pick opponents(not saying manny did)but hopkins can move to cruiserweight and beat the weakest champ..that proves nothing......cotto cant hold a candle to tito not even close..tito was prime and undefeated when hopkins wecked him..cotto had already been brutally beaten and was damamged goods..even freddy roach said this

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                  • Rassclot
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                    #59
                    Originally posted by jrosales13
                    Oh no, Tito win over Cotto win. That's not even debatable. A win over Cotto>>>>Oscar, Pavlik, and Winky...But, not Tito.

                    However, Barrera win>>>>>Tito win.
                    I know you're puerto rican.


                    and you are jerking to Tito' posters.


                    But read my post first before responding. The parallel I drew is perfect as Roy and Toney were the 2 top dogs at Cruiser-weight back then.

                    Pacquiao beating Cotto(top dog at WW at the time) would be the same as Bernard actually moving up and STOPPING RJJJR or James Toney. I'm not comparing Cotto to Tito. Get that into your head. TRY AND FOLLOW THE PARALLEL.


                    Going up to Cruiserweight and beating the champ would be farrr more impressivve than beating little Trinnidad. Sorry son. Reality bites.


                    Size matters.

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                      #60
                      Originally posted by jrosales13
                      Oh no, Tito win over Cotto win. That's not even debatable. A win over Cotto>>>>Oscar, Pavlik, and Winky...But, not Tito.

                      However, Barrera win>>>>>Tito win.
                      Really?

                      My slow ass computer let you get there before me

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