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  • bojangles1987
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    #11
    Not even close. Longevity is impressive and counts, but it's not like he is doing something completely unprecedented. Top 50 for sure IMO.

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    • IronDanHamza
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      #12
      Originally posted by Natedatpkid
      Please, he's a top 5 middleweight of all time. That's why a lot of people do think he could have beaten Hagler.

      And obviously the #1 fighter in his 40's still fighting would be really hard to argue. Because where Foreman needed a prayer to land, Hopkins does it with straight skills & ring smarts.
      Who do you have at #6?

      Middleweight is arguablly the deepest division of all time.

      Pretty difficult to rank him in the Top 5.

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      • NChristo
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        #13
        Originally posted by Natedatpkid
        Please, he's a top 5 middleweight of all time. That's why a lot of people do think he could have beaten Hagler.

        And obviously the #1 fighter in his 40's still fighting would be really hard to argue. Because where Foreman needed a prayer to land, Hopkins does it with straight skills & ring smarts.
        I have him at 5 or 6 but it's not exactly a fixed position, the only boxers who should be certain top 5 at Middle are imo, Robinson, Greb, Monzon and Hagler. Everyone else is in the top 10 could be juggled around all day.
        Last edited by NChristo; 04-03-2011, 07:56 PM.

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        • bojangles1987
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          #14
          Originally posted by IronDanHamza
          Who do you have at #6?

          Middleweight is arguablly the deepest division of all time.

          Pretty difficult to rank him in the Top 5.
          Yeah, definitely. It's arguable that outside Trinidad, his best wins against the best competition have all come outside 160.

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          • Larry the boss
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            #15
            Originally posted by Natedatpkid
            Please, he's a top 5 middleweight of all time. That's why a lot of people do think he could have beaten Hagler.

            And obviously the #1 fighter in his 40's still fighting would be really hard to argue. Because where Foreman needed a prayer to land, Hopkins does it with straight skills & ring smarts.
            would you rank hopkins over archie moore over age 40??

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            • Drunk Punch
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              #16
              Possibly top 50.

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                #17
                Originally posted by Natedatpkid
                Please, he's a top 5 middleweight of all time. That's why a lot of people do think he could have beaten Hagler.
                Whether or not he could possibly beat Hagler in a H2H match up. Doesn't mean he's top 5 MW.

                The top 4 are untouchable. Greb, SRR, Monzon, and Hagler. Are top 4.

                In my personal list Lamotta is at #5.

                But, then you have Ketchell who has a great case for being #5 himself. And, probably should be there in front of Lamotta.

                And, then guys like Steele, Walker, Flowers, Fitzsimmons, Tiger could be rank higher than Hopkins. Is debatable.

                So make it seem like Hopkins is clearly top 5 @ MW shows not really knowing the great history of the division.



                Originally posted by Natedatpkid
                And obviously the #1 fighter in his 40's still fighting would be really hard to argue. Because where Foreman needed a prayer to land, Hopkins does it with straight skills & ring smarts.
                I wasn't even thinking Foreman. But, B-Hop over "The old Mongoose"? Yea I don't know about that one.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by IronDanHamza
                  Who do you have at #6?

                  Middleweight is arguablly the deepest division of all time.

                  Pretty difficult to rank him in the Top 5.
                  It's not impossible either though.

                  Originally posted by NChristo
                  I have him at 5 or 6 but it's not exactly a fixed position, the only boxers who should be certain top 5 at Middle are imo, Robinson, Greb, Monzon and Hagler. Everyone else is in the top 10 could be juggled around all day.
                  I agree, but I have a high opinion of him so I guess you can take that for what it's worth.

                  Originally posted by bojangles1987
                  Yeah, definitely. It's arguable that outside Trinidad, his best wins against the best competition have all come outside 160.
                  Prime young undefeated Glenn Johnson? He was in majorly close fights too. Arguably undefeated since he 2nd loss to Roy Jones.

                  Originally posted by LarryX2011
                  would you rank hopkins over archie moore over age 40??
                  It's pretty close but were talking about different times. And Hopkins isn't even done yet. If he beats Pascal, then Hopkins, then Ward or Bute that'd be absolutely insane. He's one of the most complete fighters of all time. It's hard enough as it is too fine somebody how was more complete. You might find somebody faster, somebody stronger, hard puncher, but not somebody that could do it all in textbook style like Hopkins. I take that into account.

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                    #19
                    Hopkins is a ****in legend. But he's no top 10 all time fighter.

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                    • Wazaa..
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                      I don't rank him above 100.

                      Top ten all time is laughable and suggestive of a mentally defective thread starter who:

                      A: either knows very little about boxing

                      B: is too mentally damaged from substance abuse to retain his cognitive faculties

                      C: is a dumbass

                      Hopkins is a joke.

                      He lost to the neophyte Taylor 2x. Drew with an overblown Wright. Beat a Tarver coming down in weight. Lost to Calzaghe. And had all his "marquee" wins against career Welterweights.


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