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  • -Lowkey-
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    #41
    Originally posted by hugh grant
    Roach made his remark as regards Pac and duran many moons ago, and it was a lightweight fight. Roach has said Pac is the best ever fighter as well many times.

    Pacs prime is better than Durans prime. Duran lost to Laing and i know for a fact that Pac would have been slaughtered verbally if he lost to Laing, because lets face it people slaughter Pac for having tough fights with JMM. The expectations of Pac are highter, whereas people excuse Duran for losses to Laings of this world because people expect less of Duran. It would be like Pac losing to Margarito and todays version of Margarito is still more highly celebrated than Laing anyway.
    And Pac wouldnt ever lose to Margarito anyway.
    I don't know how to put this any different DURAN WAS PAST PRIME AGAINST LAING!!!!!

    Pacs Prime better than Durans? based on what? A win against Prime undefeated Leonard dwarfs Pacs best ever win.

    Oh and Pac was prime against Margarito yet he still made him drop 5lbs to gain an even bigger advantage.

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    • hugh grant
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      #42
      So Pac gets hit all the time now, people are implying, but its just no one can knock him out. Thats a good reason Pac would do well against Duran then. Becuase Pac could outspeed Duran all day and night, but if he was to get hit and something got through Pac would mostly likely take it.

      Nothing to make me think otherwise. Other lesser fighters than Pac took Durans most vicious punches so why not FOTD Pac?

      I was a fan of Duran, but its time to stop trying to pull the wool over peoples eyes, it gets on my nerves after a while.

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        #43
        Originally posted by hugh grant
        Exactly, Duran is the one getting knocked out by those punches,and they use it as for a reason why Duran could beat Pac? Pac isnt being hit with those punches to be knocked out is he now? You say Pacs defense isnt great, so why isnt he being knocked out by those, and its Duran? Margarito had 12 rounds to find one of those haye makers as did Cotto.
        No one is using those idiotic reasons to why Duran beats Pacqiauo.

        Your using theories such as 'Duran couldnt beat Laing so that shows he can't beat Pacqiauo' and 'Duran had problems with British fighter Buchana and Pacqiauo destroyed British fighter Hatton in 2 so that means Pacqiauo beats Duran'

        I mean, its preposterous.

        Pacqiauo isn't getting knocked out because he's not fighting Tommy Hearns at 154.

        Cotto nor Margarito even remotely punch anywhere near as hard as Tommy Hearns.

        Jesus christ.

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          #44
          Originally posted by pacquia0
          Pacquiao would not get hit by a shot like that.

          His great footwork means he is very hard to hit clean.
          The chances of him getting tagged by a right hand like that are pretty high.

          Pacquiao is a sucker for right hands and can be hit with jabs. I think it's pretty easy to see that Hearns would be able to land his jab and drop the right hand on Pacquiao.

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            #45
            Originally posted by Shadows
            The chances of him getting tagged by a right hand like that are pretty high.

            Pacquiao is a sucker for right hands and can be hit with jabs. I think it's pretty easy to see that Hearns would be able to land his jab and drop the right hand on Pacquiao.
            You would think that wouldn't you?

            Notttt the case here, my friend.

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              #46
              Originally posted by hugh grant
              Exactly, Duran is the one getting knocked out by those punches,and they use it as for a reason why Duran could beat Pac? Pac isnt being hit with those punches to be knocked out is he now? You say Pacs defense isnt great, so why isnt he being knocked out by those, and its Duran? Margarito had 12 rounds to find one of those haye makers as did Cotto.
              So now Duran is getting Knocked out, The same Duran who went 15 rounds with Marvin Haglar at 160lbs way past his prime.

              Your post is nonsensical, so because Pac is not getting knocked out he has great defence? More Flawed logic on your part again, last time i checked Carl Froch had never been knocked out is he some kind of defensive wizard as well? LOL

              why don't you go watch some PRIME DURAN fights you clearly haven't seen many.

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                #47
                Originally posted by MCCCXXXIII
                So now Duran is getting Knocked out, The same Duran who went 15 rounds with Marvin Haglar at 160lbs way past his prime.

                Your post is nonsensical, so because Pac is not getting knocked out he has great defence? More Flawed logic on your part again, last time i checked Carl Froch had never been knocked out is he some kind of defensive wizard as well? LOL

                why don't you go watch some PRIME DURAN fights you clearly haven't seen many.
                What?! You didn't know?!

                That is THE criteria!

                Best Defensive fighters ever;

                1.Shane Mosley
                2.Willie Pep
                3.Niccolino Locche
                4.Pernell Whitaker
                5.Floyd Mayweather Jr

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by IronDanHamza
                  No one is using those idiotic reasons to why Duran beats Pacqiauo.

                  Your using theories such as 'Duran couldnt beat Laing so that shows he can't beat Pacqiauo' and 'Duran had problems with British fighter Buchana and Pacqiauo destroyed British fighter Hatton in 2 so that means Pacqiauo beats Duran'

                  I mean, its preposterous.

                  Pacqiauo isn't getting knocked out because he's not fighting Tommy Hearns at 154.

                  Cotto nor Margarito even remotely punch anywhere near as hard as Tommy Hearns.

                  Jesus christ.
                  I agree 100% the logic he is using is ******ed. I have no issue with people saying Pac would beat a prime Duran even tho I whole heartedly disagree, but bringing up stuff like Duran lost to Laing and Pac would have beat Laing so Pac would beat Duran? He must not realize how ****** what he is typing actually is.

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                  • hanzoh74
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                    #49
                    useless thread Pac always loses in fantasy fights LOLz

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                      #50
                      Originally posted by Owlzfan84
                      I think Manny could beat Duran, but no way that happens. Duran is one of the best defensive fighters of all time when he was in his prime.
                      I want to see the fight where he was a defensive genius. Not being sarcastic but Ive never seen it.

                      I see Pac knocking Duran out in the middle rounds. We've seen that movement frustrated Duran and made him lax. Pac would use quick burst of 6 and 7 punch combinations then back alll the way out. The only way you beat Pac is with accurate countering and though Duran was a pretty good counter puncher he wasnt that accurate. His counter punching revolved more around catching fighters off guard with repeated haymakers. If Pac stands toe to toe then he risks taking a fight ending body shot. As long as he fights the right fight by comboing and getting all the way out with his good lateral movement he shouldnt lose.

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