Manny versus duran at 140??

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  • studentofthegam
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    #61
    Originally posted by RubenSonny
    That is an outright lie.
    I dont see Pac's head movement as better, just more.

    Originally posted by goblin213
    Duran is an excellent counterpuncher and defensive/offensive fighter, way better than JMM. He is probably the best at slipping punches. Plus he is very good at getting inside his opponents and beat them inside. If SRL, one of the fastest fighters, said Duran is very hard to hit then Pac will have tough time hitting Duran. So I'll go with prime Duran.
    He is absolutely not a better counter puncher than Marquez. And I'll go to my grave saying that Leonard had a much harder time than it had to be because he was scared of Duran but couldnt avoid him like he did Hagler.

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    • goblin213
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      #62
      Really student? You never notice how Duran just stands right IN FRONT of his opponents and roll and slips their punches and counter them.

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      • IronDanHamza
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        #63
        Originally posted by puga
        dont play dumb..you were doing the same thing aswell when you mention hearns koing duran , and assumed pac would get caught with the same punch when infact manny moves his head better than duran did...bottom line is, you could make a case of duran beating pac and vise versa.....not becase some dont share the same POV as you, they are being insensible or ******ed....
        That was actually in response to another poster who said 'Hearns ko'd Duran and Pacqiauo doesnt get KO'd so Pacqiauo has better defense'

        I didn't assume Pacqiauo would get caught with the same punch. I said there is most definitely a chance it can happen. And if it did land flush like that, Manny would be in the same state as Duran was.

        And Manny does not move his head better than Roberto Duran.

        Your right, If someone doesnt share the same point of view as me that doesn't make them ******ed. ...

        However, using the logic of 'Duran lost to Laing so therefore would lose to Pacqiauo' & 'Duran struggled with a british fighter in Ken Buchanan and Pacqiauo beat a british fighter in 2 rounds in Ricky Hatton so that means Pacqiauo would beat Duran' is nothing but ******ed.

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        • goblin213
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          #64
          Originally posted by IronDanHamza
          That was actually in response to another poster who said 'Hearns ko'd Duran and Pacqiauo doesnt get KO'd so Pacqiauo has better defense'

          I didn't assume Pacqiauo would get caught with the same punch. I said there is most definitely a chance it can happen. And if it did land flush like that, Manny would be in the same state as Duran was.

          And Manny does not move his head better than Roberto Duran.

          Your right, If someone doesnt share the same point of view as me that doesn't make them ******ed. ...

          However, using the logic of 'Duran lost to Laing so therefore would lose to Pacqiauo' & 'Duran struggled with a british fighter in Ken Buchanan and Pacqiauo beat a british fighter in 2 rounds in Ricky Hatton so that means Pacqiauo would beat Duran' is nothing but ******ed.
          Some1 actually said that. Duran dominated Ken, who is an ATG lightweight.

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          • The Noose
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            #65
            Cant decide.

            I would say Duran would be just as fast, but stronger. Yet Pac's non-stop style would cause Duran problems.

            Pac can leave himself open, but gets away with it because hes always throwing. Duran could counter single shots, but would have trouble against the southpaw straight combinations.

            I lean towards Duran.

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            • -Huey-
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              #66
              Duran-Leonard 1 prove nothing, Leonard fought like an idiot that night. He abandoned his
              Game plan and tried that macho crap that ended up costing him the fight...the rematch proves my point. Duran's D was awful! Pac would absolutely destroy Duran...too fast and too awkward for Duran's one-dimensional style.

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              • studentofthegam
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                #67
                Originally posted by goblin213
                Really student? You never notice how Duran just stands right IN FRONT of his opponents and roll and slips their punches and counter them.
                He's good. But I think Marquez is the best Ive seen because he can do it during extreme fire fights. Just asking, Who do you thinks better between JMM and MAB?Just on countering. It may just be a matter of taste.

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                • puga
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                  #68
                  Originally posted by IronDanHamza
                  That was actually in response to another poster who said 'Hearns ko'd Duran and Pacqiauo doesnt get KO'd so Pacqiauo has better defense'

                  I didn't assume Pacqiauo would get caught with the same punch. I said there is most definitely a chance it can happen. And if it did land flush like that, Manny would be in the same state as Duran was.

                  And Manny does not move his head better than Roberto Duran.Your right, If someone doesnt share the same point of view as me that doesn't make them ******ed. ...

                  However, using the logic of 'Duran lost to Laing so therefore would lose to Pacqiauo' & 'Duran struggled with a british fighter in Ken Buchanan and Pacqiauo beat a british fighter in 2 rounds in Ricky Hatton so that means Pacqiauo would beat Duran' is nothing but ******ed.
                  yes he does..the startigth right that koed duran, he saw that coming from a mile but since he aint as fast, he got caught...pac is faster than duran,with a better footwork too that thing is sure , i dont think he would've gotten hit by the same punch.....it is as ******ed as saying " the reason manny is not geting ktfo now is because he wasnt fighting the tommy hearns of the world.....not becuase duran did get ktfo, its a sure thing pac would too....

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                  • pacquia0
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                    #69
                    Originally posted by IronDanHamza
                    That was actually in response to another poster who said 'Hearns ko'd Duran and Pacqiauo doesnt get KO'd so Pacqiauo has better defense'

                    I didn't assume Pacqiauo would get caught with the same punch. I said there is most definitely a chance it can happen. And if it did land flush like that, Manny would be in the same state as Duran was.

                    And Manny does not move his head better than Roberto Duran.

                    Your right, If someone doesnt share the same point of view as me that doesn't make them ******ed. ...

                    However, using the logic of 'Duran lost to Laing so therefore would lose to Pacqiauo' & 'Duran struggled with a british fighter in Ken Buchanan and Pacqiauo beat a british fighter in 2 rounds in Ricky Hatton so that means Pacqiauo would beat Duran' is nothing but ******ed.
                    Duran was strictly a power puncher and struggles against fighters with movement. Duran is far too easy to hit and Pacquiao would bust his face up no problem. Pacquiao can slip punches much better than Duran so yes Pac does have better head movement. Pacquiaos footwork is tremendous hes able to get in and out no problem at all. Duran would have a hard time landing on Pacquiao. Pacquiao also has an advantage in handspeed which means he can land more than Duran in any exchange.

                    Duran is an ATG, but I think you need to get with the times. Pacquiao is P4P#1 and FOTD, hes beaten numerous ATGs and has 8 world titles in different divisions.

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                    • -MAKAVELLI-
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                      #70
                      after the most epic, brutal, dramatic battles of all times...with the crowd still gasping for air and begging for one more round of violence....



                      the fight ends in a draw



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