Manny versus duran at 140??

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  • JDezi4
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    #131
    Duran would KO him with a bodyshot... Anytime in the fight

    Scorecard-wise, Manny definitely has a chance. In fact, he might even be the favorite on the scorecards, that is if Duran can't do anything about his speed (which I doubt, he did it to Leonards)

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      #132
      Originally posted by JDezi4
      Duran would KO him with a bodyshot... Anytime in the fight
      Scorecard-wise, Manny definitely has a chance. In fact, he might even be the favorite on the scorecards, that is if Duran can't do anything about his speed (which I doubt, he did it to Leonards)
      see why it's ironic for *****s to call anyone ******ed?......lol

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      • jazluvr
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        #133
        Originally posted by ModernTalking
        Pacquiao lose KO1. Pac never win in fantasy fight. Floyd would KO Duran in 1 though.
        No way...Floyd is a defensive master, and is not a power puncher...he pot shots with uncanny accuracy and doesn't get hit. Shane got very lucky he got that one shot in. Floyd recovered quickly.

        Pac is his opposite almost. They are so close, but i would bet big on pac, but mostly on faith. Not talent on either guys side. And that a "just barely" pick Pac. (against Floyd)

        I pick Pac to win because of his sheer love of intense action, his killer instinct, his pinpoint focus, and ability to keep turning his opponents.
        Last edited by jazluvr; 03-04-2011, 04:09 PM.

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        • fabie
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          #134
          Originally posted by RubenSonny
          I don't think Pacs footwork is bad just limited, he cannot fight off the backfoot and has never shown he can, and when has Pac showed everything on the outside? It should be obvious that Duran was a counter-puncher. Your posts screamed of uneducated cringy bullcrap
          So you would rather resort to Character -Assassination rather than really talking about the issues? I've posted my own assessments, obviously no one would ever know...it is my reading, your reading is yours.

          Speculations are speculations no matter what you make of it.

          It is a fantasy fight.

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          • RubenSonny
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            #135
            Originally posted by fabie
            So you would rather resort to Character -Assassination rather than really talking about the issues? I've posted my own assessments, obviously no one would ever know...it is my reading, your reading is yours.

            Speculations are speculations no matter what you make of it.

            It is a fantasy fight.
            I meant to say anything on the outside, and yes when did he show anything of the outside?

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              #136
              Originally posted by lfc19titles
              pac has great footwork, he has really improved on it ruben, 5 years ago i would have agreed with your comment that his foot work isnt the best.

              do you realise how he always manages to land so many clean shots with his arm properly extended, how do you think he lands his combinations and does his amazing angle worl as well? it all starts from his footwork, getting into great positions, being aware to move as soon as he has thrown enough, not move away but move into a different offensive position

              i find it funny how pac who is a top 15 atg if not 10 (top 5 according to roy jones jnr), loses nearly every fantasy fight

              pac for me would win, his combinations and angles would make this a one sided fight, i expect the first say 2-3 rounds to be close but then pac starting to dominate and maybe score a late tko or win a UD
              I really cant see any other outcome than a Pac win. If he fights his fight, i cant see him losing.

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              • fabie
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                #137
                Originally posted by fabie
                This would be an awesome fight.

                Both fighters have the power to KO one another with their combos. Both have the stamina while Duran would have an edge on the inside fighting while Pacquiao would have the outside fighting/angles/footwork and speed.

                Both are combination fighter but because of speed, Pacquiao would have an edge if he stays outside but would be hard-pressed because of his lack of a true jab. His "jabs" were in the form of the newly-found RIGHT HOOKS (check hooks) or even his LEFT STRAIGHT CROSS.

                Duran on the other hand is adept in bob and weaving while charging inside for the body punches relentlessly.

                Both fighter would be opportunistic to go in and out. In that light, if Duran can exploit Pacquiao more inside, he simply would bring Pacquiao down. But Pacquiao, if he stays defensive as far as using lateral footworks (which he has) can engage with his southpaw 1-1-2 and keep Duran at bay while using combinations to follow it up.

                It can go either way. But Pacquiao with his machine-gun like combinations and follow-could probably upstage Duran in the later rounds whereas Duran can always threaten Pacquiao with those body punches anytime.

                Toss-up but Pacquiao for a late stoppage or a SD.
                Originally posted by RubenSonny
                I meant to say anything on the outside, and yes when did he show anything of the outside?
                Ok then stick with the issues and none of the personal attacks prevalent in this board.

                When I said Pacquiao staying on the outside it is because relatively Duran is proficient on the inside game. That is not to say that Pacquiao isn't. It's a relative observation. And so Pacquiao being opportunistic and waiting for angles, he would do check hooks and his patented 1-1-2.

                Pacquiao's "defense" is his offense though he is technically a counter-puncher likewise. Duran is a no non-sense fighter who would try to break down the barrier and go with his inside game in the form of body hooks and uppercuts.

                THat being said, I can see Pacquiao staying on the outside. I hope that clarifies your nagging question.

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                • RubenSonny
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                  #138
                  Originally posted by fabie
                  Ok then stick with the issues and none of the personal attacks prevalent in this board.

                  When I said Pacquiao staying on the outside it is because relatively Duran is proficient on the inside game. That is not to say that Pacquiao isn't. It's a relative observation. And so Pacquiao being opportunistic and waiting for angles, he would do check hooks and his patented 1-1-2.

                  Pacquiao's "defense" is his offense though he is technically a counter-puncher likewise. Duran is a no non-sense fighter who would try to break down the barrier and go with his inside game in the form of body hooks and uppercuts.

                  THat being said, I can see Pacquiao staying on the outside. I hope that clarifies your nagging question.
                  Pac is best at mid-range, hes showed little on the outside (where Duran is great) and nothing on the inside (where Duran is great).

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                  • jazluvr
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                    #139
                    Originally posted by RubenSonny
                    Pac is best at mid-range, hes showed little on the outside (where Duran is great) and nothing on the inside (where Duran is great).
                    I see Pac as an in-and out, lateral movement style.

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                    • ts33
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                      #140
                      Wow, an ATG like pac, and so many people play down his chances against ATG's from the past in fantasy matchups. SMH

                      'No mas' comes to mind

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