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  • Originally posted by The Gambler1981 View Post
    Yea it is elaborate when he could just say, no. Playing this whole game trying to spin is the much bigger ***** move since they are basically pretending to want the fight without doing what it takes to make happen.
    pretending to want the fight?

    team pac aren't the ones who are denying that greenberg ever mediated a 2nd round of negotiations...

    Once a guy starts to refuse testing, it become a self fulfilling prophecy because it will only make the other guy more determined to get it because you are looking guilty.
    7 days is better than the 18 days wifebeater did for the mosley fight.

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    • random blood testing could be a deal breaker but it wouldn't be a difference maker as far as the result of the fight is concerned imo. if pac is willing to go 7 days, floyd should compromise a little bit and accept it. the last 7 days is when both fighters are already winding down their training. although according to peds experts (the real ones not the nsb wannabes) there are certain peds that can get out of your system in 7 days or less but still it's too risky to take your chances in such a short period of time knowing that you will be tested right after the fight. anybody in his right mind would not take peds 7 days before a fight. and there's also a urine testing which is random so you're down to just a few peds that you can take that is believed to be detectable only by blood. i don't know if it's true but the famous HGH can help heal damage tissues faster but it won't really enhance your power. so if you're in pac's shoes, with all the reputation you need to protect, will you take the risk of taking peds within 7 days? i don't think so. is 7 days acceptable to floyd then? if he really wants to take the fight he should.

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      • Originally posted by Pullcounter View Post
        you can't prove su****ious behavior with more su****ious behavior. at some point in time you gotta real actual evidence. *****s and team wifebeater have none.


        bwhaahahahahaahh! and team wifebeater's been consistent? first it was 14 day cut off. then they had an 18 day cut off for mosley/wifbeater. then it was EPO. then it was A-side-meth. Now it's some unknown super PEDs. Then it was that pac was fighting old washed up fighters. then it was pac is weight draining his opponents...

        yeah... if *****s/team wifebeater had any consistancy maybe you would ahve a point...


        random doesn't mean lack of foreknowledge.

        http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/sh...&postcount=156
        How can you get real evidence if the person in question is actively not allowing the process~

        They have been much more consistent than team Manny, it was full testing then 14 days to make it happen then full testing. Do you really want me to go through all team Manny's various positions?

        Random means random meaning they would be randomly performed which means they could happen at any time without the knowledge of either principle. Look up USADA policy~

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        • Originally posted by Pullcounter View Post
          pretending to want the fight?

          team pac aren't the ones who are denying that greenberg ever mediated a 2nd round of negotiations...



          7 days is better than the 18 days wifebeater did for the mosley fight.
          That doesn't matter team Manny is all talk they don't want it for real their actions speak for them self. The biggest punk move of all is pretending to want a fight then punk out then blame it on the other guy.

          Congratulation on supporting a punks point a view~


          Why do you keep misrepresenting facts? 18 days randomly cut by the experts who thought everything was kosher is better than an arbitrary date

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          • I'm a fan of pacquiao, but just take a drug test even if its not against mayweather.Just have a drug test against anyone.

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            • Originally posted by The Gambler1981 View Post
              How can you get real evidence if the person in question is actively not allowing the process~
              pac has offered a 7 day cut off, which is better than the 18 day cut off for wifebeater/mosley

              They have been much more consistent than team Manny, it was full testing then 14 days to make it happen then full testing. Do you really want me to go through all team Manny's various positions?
              both camps have been inconsistant... so you can throw this argument out the window... it's going no where.

              Random means random meaning they would be randomly performed which means they could happen at any time without the knowledge of either principle. Look up USADA policy~
              read the post:

              http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/sh...&postcount=156

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              • Originally posted by brick wall View Post
                random blood testing could be a deal breaker but it wouldn't be a difference maker as far as the result of the fight is concerned imo. if pac is willing to go 7 days, floyd should compromise a little bit and accept it. the last 7 days is when both fighters are already winding down their training. although according to peds experts (the real ones not the nsb wannabes) there are certain peds that can get out of your system in 7 days or less but still it's too risky to take your chances in such a short period of time knowing that you will be tested right after the fight. anybody in his right mind would not take peds 7 days before a fight. and there's also a urine testing which is random so you're down to just a few peds that you can take that is believed to be detectable only by blood. i don't know if it's true but the famous HGH can help heal damage tissues faster but it won't really enhance your power. so if you're in pac's shoes, with all the reputation you need to protect, will you take the risk of taking peds within 7 days? i don't think so. is 7 days acceptable to floyd then? if he really wants to take the fight he should.
                Depends on what type of testing if Floyd remains hung up on USADA their rules are their rules and they change for no one but as depicted in the Mosley fight they most likely will not draw blood that close to the fight without reason.

                If Floyd is ok with a different third party they could do whatever then.

                It is only unsolvable as long as both side remain glued to their current stances.

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                • Originally posted by ippo View Post
                  I'm a fan of pacquiao, but just take a drug test even if its not against mayweather.Just have a drug test against anyone.
                  That also solves the problem, you take the test against anyone no one can really say anything. It really isn't that hard to make go away.

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                  • Originally posted by Pullcounter View Post
                    pac has offered a 7 day cut off, which is better than the 18 day cut off for wifebeater/mosley


                    both camps have been inconsistant... so you can throw this argument out the window... it's going no where.



                    read the post:

                    http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/sh...&postcount=156
                    Not the same thing~

                    One has been much more consistent than the other~

                    No, see how easy it is to say no~

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                    • Originally posted by The Gambler1981 View Post
                      That doesn't matter team Manny is all talk they don't want it for real their actions speak for them self.
                      what??? it does matter cause team pac been trying to make the fight, but all wifbeater does is make excuses like "i'm on vacation", "there wre no negotiations", and "I got legal issues".


                      The biggest punk move of all is pretending to want a fight then punk out then blame it on the other guy.

                      Congratulation on supporting a punks point a view~
                      what???? lols... trying to get out of the fight by going on vacation, denying a 2nd round of negotiations, and getting into unnecessary legal issues is the punk move....

                      Why do you keep misrepresenting facts? 18 days randomly cut by the experts who thought everything was kosher is better than an arbitrary date
                      lols... those 18 days were not random...

                      look at this post

                      http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/sh...&postcount=167

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