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  • The Gambler1981
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    #291
    Originally posted by brick wall
    what do you know really? are you sure about that? what about USADA, do they have any power over pro boxing?
    Not if they don't get asked.

    They are the leading drug test lab in the United State and is national in scope, I like that over state by state where the rules are very different and holes can be found. Even if Nevada totally gets on the ball a cheater could just fight in a different state and get around it.

    It is a shitty problem in boxing that doesn't have any easy fixes.

    Which is why i have no issue with fighters taking the lead since they should look out for their own interests and this is a very dangerous sport where a slight edge a guy should not have could mean the difference between life and death.

    I personally don't want to see someone have to get killed or severely hurt for people to get serious about this issue, which is what it would take at this point which in turn makes me very sad.
    Last edited by The Gambler1981; 02-16-2011, 05:13 PM.

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    • Ray*
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      #292
      Originally posted by FootWork777
      Why not just take the test Manny? You can prove your innocence and make your accusers look like fools. Why not?

      That would be against his cultural beliefs, Why should any phillipino subject themselves to a random drug test than 14 years old get subjected to?

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      • brick wall
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        #293
        Originally posted by P4P305
        No, i'm still a *******. I'm just posting what Victor Conte had stated. He is the expert, not me.


        FanHouse: Can we begin with the concern for EPO in boxing?

        Victor Conte: Well, you're specifically asking about the significance of the phrase, '19 hours.' And yes, EPO will clear the system in less than a day. But that number is a mean average -- the 19 hours.

        http://boxing.fanhouse.com/2010/05/2...od-doping-epo/
        so what are you fixing? is 19 hours not less than 7 days to you huh?

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        • The Gambler1981
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          #294
          Originally posted by Pullcounter
          bwhahahahahahahaha!

          if it isn't arbitrary it isn't random ******. that's what random means!

          if USDA is choosing the dates, it ain't random!!!!


          from http://thesaurus.com/browse/random

          Main Entry: random
          Part of Speech: adjective
          Definition: haphazard, chance
          Synonyms: accidental, adventitious, aimless, arbitrary, casual, contingent, designless, desultory, driftless, fluky, fortuitous, hit-or-miss, incidental, indiscriminate, irregular, objectless, odd, promiscuous, purposeless, slapdash, spot, stray, unaimed, unconsidered, unplanned, unpremeditated
          Antonyms: definite, methodical, particular, specific, systematic
          Originally posted by Pullcounter
          from http://dictionary.reference.com/brow...m?fromRef=true
          ran·dom

              /ˈrændəm/ Show Spelled[ran-duhm] Show IPA
          –adjective 1. proceeding, made, or occurring without definite aim, reason, or pattern: the random selection of numbers.

          2. Statistics . of or characterizing a process of selection in which each item of a set has an equal probability of being chosen.

          3. Building Trades . a. (of building materials) lacking uniformity of dimensions: random shingles.

          b. (of ashlar) laid without continuous courses.

          c. constructed or applied without regularity: random bond.




          –noun 4. Chiefly British . bank3 ( def. 7b ) .


          –adverb 5. Building Trades . without uniformity: random-sized slates.


          —Idiom 6. at random, without definite aim, purpose, method, or adherence to a prior arrangement; in a haphazard way: Contestants were chosen at random from the studio audience.
          Originally posted by Pullcounter
          wow!!! the irony!!!

          someone out of touch with reality tell me that i'm talking about fiction!!!

          THE IRONY!!!
          I guess you didn't get the part where it is random to the people getting tested~

          Try again. I know you worked hard for that failure but keep you chin up

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            #295
            Originally posted by brick wall
            so what are you fixing? is 19 hours not less than 7 days to you huh?
            It is. I thought you meant 3 to 4 days when you say less.

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              #296
              Originally posted by brick wall
              you mean the nsac rules which has direct jurisdiction over pro boxing? go ask the people who want to modify it.
              No, that's not what I mean. Oh wait..it's brick. How apropos.

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                #297
                Originally posted by The Gambler1981
                I guess you didn't get the part where it is random to the people getting tested~

                Try again. I know you worked hard for that failure but keep you chin up
                false...

                lack of foreknowledge doesn't make the process random.

                try again. i know you worked hard for that failure but keep your chin up.

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                  #298
                  Originally posted by The Gambler1981
                  Not if they don't get asked.

                  They are the leading drug test lab in the United State and is national in scope, I like that over state by state where the rules are very different and holes can be found. Even if Nevada totally gets on the ball a cheater could just fight in a different state and get around it.

                  It is a shitty problem in boxing that doesn't have any easy fixes.

                  Which is why i have no issue with fighters taking the lead since they should look out for their own interests and this is a very dangerous sport where a slight edge a guy should have could mean the difference between life and death.

                  I personally don't want to see someone have to get killed or severely hurt for people to get serious about this issue, which is what it would take at this point which in turn makes me very sad.
                  usada as far as pro boxing is concerned is an agency for hire. in fact tygart tried to whore himself and the agency when this issue broke out.

                  and who won't agree if fighters want to look after their safety? by all means they have the right to do that...just do it right and don't act like a bitch.

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                  • The Gambler1981
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                    #299
                    Originally posted by Pullcounter
                    false...

                    lack of foreknowledge doesn't make the process random.

                    try again. i know you worked hard for that failure but keep your chin up.
                    It is random to the people involved that is why it is called random drug testing since they are not in on the schedule.

                    If you have no clue when a test will come guess what to you it is random.

                    I typed two sentences it took me less than a minute to do both of these posts, and my point is solid.

                    Try again failure

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                      #300
                      Originally posted by Pullcounter
                      false...

                      lack of foreknowledge doesn't make the process random.

                      try again. i know you worked hard for that failure but keep your chin up.

                      Pullcounter stop reaching and be a rational person for once instead of being an idiot. People getting the testing dont know when the tests are coming and when they will end. Its as simple as that. Anybody who makes this harder then what it is is just trying to be difficult or are truly a moron.

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