Muhammad Ali Vs Samuel Peter

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  • M Bison
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    #61
    Originally posted by Elroy1
    Denium is in denial....

    Not 1 drop of piss!

    The guy's about as brain dead as Toney now too!


    I think we should stalk One More Rounds posts and post the same type of **** he does to him?

    "Blah blah blah... useless, blah blah blah ****** and something something banned"

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    • Suckmedry
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      #62
      Originally posted by Elroy1
      Your a joke mate, you have nothing to offer here, I been through some of your other posts and they are not worth 1.. Not ONE single drop of piss in the dessert!
      Literally every single one of your 700 posts in the last month has been on an Ali related subject, making your ******ed arguments. Think about how sad that is.

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      • Ilves
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        #63
        Originally posted by boxer2k5
        this big fat gorilla too slow too fat too ugly. you big dumb gorilla im going to do the white man a favor and send you back to africa. lmaoo

        ali was great inside and outside the ring
        What's great about racism?

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        • M Bison
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          #64
          Originally posted by Ilves
          What's great about racism?
          Nothing is good about racism, it might be another black man saying it but its not right and trust me Ali skin colour is the ONLY reason he got off with saying such disrespectful things to another fellow professional athlete.

          I prefer the guys who leave the talking out of the equation and just do the business in the ring, sure they can say a few funny things but they shouldn't be trying to downplay someone with that sort of disrespect its similiar to that joke fest between Groves and Froch both were to blame for that.

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            #65
            Originally posted by Red Cyclone
            I prefer the guys who leave the talking out of the equation and just do the business in the ring, sure they can say a few funny things but they shouldn't be trying to downplay someone with that sort of disrespect its similiar to that joke fest between Groves and Froch both were to blame for that.
            Bit ironic going on about respect/disrespect with your avatar/sig.

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              #66
              Originally posted by denium
              Bit ironic going on about respect/disrespect with your avatar/sig.
              Its called karma and banter beside there is nothing racist about my avatar and sig.

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              • BennyST
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                #67
                Actually, although people are laughing at this match up, there are genuinely a few points that could help Peter in an Ali fight.

                One: Peter is a big solid dude. He could eat Ali's punches like he eats skittles. He would never be fazed by any shots, while his punches could hurt Ali. I don't think he'd knock Ali out, but he could certainly hurt him and maybe even out him down. Frazier could, so I'm sure peter could if he landed his left hook too. His size and power are pretty crazy for that smaller era, so its very possible that he could overwhelm Ali with his brute strength, power and size.

                Two: while some people laugh at Peters skills, he's not nearly as bad as a lot make out. He was skilled enough to drop Wlad numerous times. Ali didn't have great defense. Speed, jab, good defense, but he could certainly be hit and Peter would hit him, quite a lot.

                I just think the conditioning of Peter would play a factor too. Whilst he might have sometimes come in big, when he was at his best, he had great stamina and kept his power all fight which I think would trouble Ali.

                Peter wasn't as fast as Frazier and maybe not as skilled, though it could be argued he was very close, but he was a bigger, hit harder, had a similar great left hook, more power and the same determined style that troubled Ali.

                I could see Ali having success early, while taking some big shots still, then as his legs tire, Peter starts to land his big shots more often, just like what happened to Ali in some fights, and then maybe he'd just get hurt late and Peter take over due to his size, power and underrated offensive skills.

                Good, hard fight though. Would be one of Ali's epic ones.

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                  #68
                  I'm not even gonna make a pick. This is ridiculous.

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                    #69
                    Originally posted by BennyST
                    Actually, although people are laughing at this match up, there are genuinely a few points that could help Peter in an Ali fight.

                    One: Peter is a big solid dude. He could eat Ali's punches like he eats skittles. He would never be fazed by any shots, while his punches could hurt Ali. I don't think he'd knock Ali out, but he could certainly hurt him and maybe even out him down. Frazier could, so I'm sure peter could if he landed his left hook too. His size and power are pretty crazy for that smaller era, so its very possible that he could overwhelm Ali with his brute strength, power and size.

                    Two: while some people laugh at Peters skills, he's not nearly as bad as a lot make out. He was skilled enough to drop Wlad numerous times. Ali didn't have great defense. Speed, jab, good defense, but he could certainly be hit and Peter would hit him, quite a lot.

                    I just think the conditioning of Peter would play a factor too. Whilst he might have sometimes come in big, when he was at his best, he had great stamina and kept his power all fight which I think would trouble Ali.

                    Peter wasn't as fast as Frazier and maybe not as skilled, though it could be argued he was very close, but he was a bigger, hit harder, had a similar great left hook, more power and the same determined style that troubled Ali.

                    I could see Ali having success early, while taking some big shots still, then as his legs tire, Peter starts to land his big shots more often, just like what happened to Ali in some fights, and then maybe he'd just get hurt late and Peter take over due to his size, power and underrated offensive skills.

                    Good, hard fight though. Would be one of Ali's epic ones.
                    Good points. I think Ali would go for a clear UD after 15 rounds but people dismissing Peter totally are just blinded by obsessive nostalgia. He could bring problems to Ali with his 260lb. body and granite head.

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                      #70
                      Originally posted by Ilves
                      Good points. I think Ali would go for a clear UD after 15 rounds but people dismissing Peter totally are just blinded by obsessive nostalgia. He could bring problems to Ali with his 260lb. body and granite head.
                      Yes, agree completely. People blinded by nostalgia seem to think black and white film makes you more skilled, faster, better conditioned, more savvy, better jab, greater footwork and adds more depth of opposition compared to today.

                      Sam Peter is proof that is simply not the case.

                      Would be up there with Frazier, Foreman, Liston, etc as a great fight. However, I see it also being next to Spinks, Frazier, Holmes, Norton etc as a loss for Ali.

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