How you beat Pac and Mayweather....

[Bushbaby]

jmm is braver than wifebeater. jmm traded with pac. wifebeater won't.

wifebeater gets outworked.

Oscar outworked Floyd too.But remember Floyd is better than everything than Marquez.Plus bigger & stronger.

[Cuauhtémoc1520]

I think Zab hit him with more effective left hand straights

He only needs to fight inside when necessary. He will have to hold a lil bit. If he keeps his distance and uses lateral movement its easy.

Pac isnt great on the inside but he separates well. By that I mean he Floyd cant get comfortable inside. Thats the mistake all the other welters made and then he exploded on them. Floyd should fight tall and jab his ass to death. Hold and bully on the inside til the ref breaks it up.

Boxing instinct says to always take the defensive fighter over the aggresive one, so if I bet on this fight I would definetly put my money on Floyd, I mean how could you bet against him.

Exactly, people let their personal feeling get in the way of rational thought.....

[Larry the boss]

wifebeater will have no choice. pac will be on top of him all the time.

but where wifebeater is dangerous is when pac exits the pocket. that's when wifebeater does his best work, when his opponent is pulling out... especially if they pull out going straight back.

wow..this is a big step for you..green k

[brick wall]

floyd is not really good fighting in close range. he's clever yeah but it's not his style to really fight in a close range. he's good fighting coming out of a clinch because he's smart enough to use those extra tricks like elbows and pushing his gloves to his opponent's face. he also has that style of unloading a punch then initiating a clinch when his opponent gets close to him. but when it comes to a toe-to-toe encounter that's not his style...in fact he avoids those kind of confrontation.

[MindBat]

Good points but that's why I think size matters a lot vs Mayweather as well. Marg wasn't going to get that fight, he just wasn't. Roger knew that even if Mayweather could have pulled off that UD, it was going to be tough, I mean look at how Marg handled all of Pac's shots and there's no way Mayweather has even half of that punch output.

What Floyd would lack in punch output he'll make up for with accurate punching.

He doesn't need to throw a volume of punches when he has the ability to surgically dismantle his opponents with properly placed shots.

corrales is a puncher, not a pressure fighter.

hatton is a hold-n-hit fighter like ward, not a pressure fighter.

They tried to walk him down and corner him with pressure. The results were a forgone conclusion.

[Chopper417]

jmm is braver than wifebeater. jmm traded with pac. wifebeater won't.

wifebeater gets outworked.

Sorry dude, Floyd getting outworked is a really easy thing to say, but in reality it just doesn't hold water at all. One of Floyd's best qualities is his ability to diminish his opponents punch output from counter punching. Look at Pac's punch output against Marquez in both of their fights, right around 650 per fight, significantly lower than when Pac fights punching bags like Margs and Clottey (around 1200 punches). When you add to that the fact that Mayweather is significantly faster than Marquez and has a stiffer jab, you are going to see a Pac that is more reluctant to throw. Not to mention Pac's punch output will be significantly affected by the fact that Mayweather isn't going to fight within Pac's preferred distance range. The outwork thing is just an easy thing for Pac fans to say without really providing any technical analysis/evidence to back it up.

[V.WEBB]

floyd is not really good fighting in close range. he's clever yeah but it's not his style to really fight in a close range. he's good fighting coming out of a clinch because he's smart enough to use those extra tricks like elbows and pushing his gloves to his opponent's face. he also has that style of unloading a punch then initiating a clinch when his opponent gets close to him. but when it comes to a toe-to-toe encounter that's not his style...in fact he avoids those kind of confrontation.

You sure about this? The dude is versatile.

[brick wall]

You sure about this?

what makes you think he's good? i already made my explanation...your turn.

[MindBat]

wifebeater will have no choice. pac will be on top of him all the time.

but where wifebeater is dangerous is when pac exits the pocket. that's when wifebeater does his best work, when his opponent is pulling out... especially if they pull out going straight back.

Pac would be on top of him and he'll be missing a lot of shots in the process.

In the meantime while Pac is busy leaving himself open, Floyd would rip him with uppercuts and lead right hands all night long.

Pac has not fought ANY defensively smart fighters since perhaps Juan Manuel Marquez, and that's stretching it.

I'll venture to guess that when Pac continues to get tagged and becomes frustrated with Floyd's defense or offense, there won't be a Plan B from his corner.

[V.WEBB]

what makes you think he's good? i already made my explanation...your turn.

Uh...actually seeing him fight there before in the past and being very successful in doing so. Have you seen his fight with Jesus Chavez before? He displayed a great ability to fight in close quarters, it was beautiful how he picked his shots, picked off Chavez's shots (although he did get hit), create space when he wanted to, and throw many combinations in very close quarters. He laid on the ropes and rolled shots and countered in a precise manner. The dude can fight in close quarters.