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  • Cuauhtémoc1520
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    How you beat Pac and Mayweather....

    Pacquaio:

    Pac is a very unique athlete and fighter, I can't really remember anyone like him. I think of someone I can compare him to and it's really hard. Maybe an early version of Duran because of how active and relentless he is but I'm not sure.

    Pac isn't the best pure boxer out there, what makes him great is his speed and quickness and awkward style. He is also an incredible puncher for a man his size. His punching power alone beat JMM because of the knockdowns because he was outboxed and out countered.

    How you beat him:

    He doesn't do well vs counter punchers. He wants to be aggressive when you allow him to and if you are a great counter puncher like JMM or Mayweather, you can beat him. You have to be very careful of course of not getting caught but his style lends itself to being countered if you have the speed and skill to overcome his natural freakish abilities.

    Mayweather:

    He is one of the most skilled natural boxers I have ever seen in my life time, especially defensively. Forget the hate, forget that fact he seems like a ***, he is an incredible talent. Speed, reaction, reflexes, power and ring intelligence make him the pound 4 pound best in the game IMO. His work ethic is incredible as well, he comes in shape and stays in shape during his off time.

    How you beat Mayweather:

    He had problems with fighters that try and overwhelm him, ala Castillo. Of course he adapted in the second fight and over came that but there'a a reason the Mayweather's didn't want to fight Margarito in his prime because they knew the size, chin and work rate of Margarito would not be a good match for Mayweather.

    You need to be super aggressive, have a great chin and a serious work rate to beat Mayweather.

    Mayweather vs Pacquaio:

    Mayweather's game plan will be not pursue Pac. He will force Pac to come forward, use the jab (even though the jab isn't the best against a lefty as an orthodox fighter) and then counter with that incredible left hook going backwards and straight right hand that comes from out of nowhere.
    Last edited by Cuauhtémoc1520; 02-10-2011, 01:55 PM.
  • roaring thunder
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    pac would win fool. mayweather would be overwhelmed by pacs output and angles.

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    • DR.ORGYY
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      #3
      pac will beat floyd...................

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      • Pullcounter
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        #4
        to beat pac u gotta go to the body early

        to beat wifebeater u gotta outwork or out punch him.

        pac outworks wifebeater

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        • Cuauhtémoc1520
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          #5
          Originally posted by roaring thunder
          pac would win fool. mayweather would be overwhelmed by pacs output and angles.
          No man sorry to burst your bubble. Mayweather is a GREAT defensive fighter, he can handle angles and speed, what he can't handle is a brawler that comes forward and overwhelms him. Pac isn't that fighter.

          I have the utmost respect for both but I think Mayweather takes this one. Of course Mayweather has a chance of getting caught like he did vs Mosley but his defense is so good he won't allow himself to get into those types of exchanges with Pac.

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          • Steak
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            Pacquiao is most open to left uppercuts and body shots along the ropes.

            Mayweather is most open to jab to the body right hand to the head combination. possibly also right hooks from the southpaw stance.

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            • Cuauhtémoc1520
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              #7
              Originally posted by Pullcounter
              to beat pac u gotta go to the body early

              to beat wifebeater u gotta outwork or out punch him.

              pac outworks wifebeater
              Mayweather doesn't need to go to Pac's body, that would be incredibly ******. To go to the body, you need to get close and exchange. Mayweather would out point Pac and go on to win a UD.

              Won't be popular and might even be boring but he isn't a risk taker, you know this.

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              • fabie
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                #8
                Originally posted by Cuauhtémoc1502
                Pacquaio:

                Pac is a very unique athlete and fighter, I can't really remember anyone like him. I think of someone I can compare him to and it's really hard. Maybe an early version of Duran because of how active and relentless he is but I'm not sure.

                Pac isn't the best pure boxer out there, what makes him great is his speed and quickness and awkward style. He is also an incredible puncher for a man his size. His punching power alone beat JMM because of the knockdowns because he was outboxed and out countered.

                How you beat him:

                He doesn't do well vs counter punchers. He wants to be aggressive when you allow him to and if you are a great counter puncher like JMM or Mayweather, you can beat him. You have to be very careful of course of not getting caught but his style lends itself to being countered if you have the speed and skill to overcome his natural freakish abilities.

                Mayweather:

                He is one of the most skilled natural boxers I have ever seen in my life time, especially defensively. Forget the hate, forget that fact he seems like a ***, he is an incredible talent. Speed, reaction, reflexes, power and ring intelligence make him the pound 4 pound best in the game IMO. His work ethic is incredible as well, he comes in shape and stays in shape during his off time.

                How you beat Mayweather:

                He had problems with fighters that try and overwhelm him, ala Castillo. Of course he adapted in the second fight and over came that but there'a a reason the Mayweather's didn't want to fight Margarito in his prime because they knew the size, chin and work rate of Margarito would not be a good match for Mayweather.

                You need to be super aggressive, have a great chin and a serious work rate to beat Mayweather.

                Mayweather vs Pacquaio:

                Mayweather's game plan will be not pursue Pac. He will force Pac to come forward, use the jab (even though the jab isn't the best against a lefty as an orthodox fighter) and then counter with that incredible left hook going backwards and straight right hand that comes from out of nowhere.
                NICE POST.

                I also posted an in-depth analysis...if you care to read it.

                Talk about anything boxing related here. Where the boxing discussion is always Non Stop!

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                • V.WEBB
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Cuauhtémoc1502
                  Mayweather doesn't need to go to Pac's body, that would be incredibly ******. To go to the body, you need to get close and exchange. Mayweather would out point Pac and go on to win a UD.

                  Won't be popular and might even be boring but he isn't a risk taker, you know this.
                  I actually see him fighting Manny on the inside. Mayweather is much better there and Manny isn't very good there. He doesn't need to really exchange there though. He is very comfortable in the pocket and he can really pick and chooses his shots there. And him fighting at that close range would throw Manny off IMO.

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                  • Cuauhtémoc1520
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by fabie
                    NICE POST.

                    I also posted an in-depth analysis...if you care to read it.

                    http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=439314

                    Very nice in depth analysis. I didn't want to be long winded and wanted to talk more about style than technical combo's that would work. I just see Mayweather not taking risks, he's great when it comes to taking away another fighters strengths even if it means limiting what he does well. That's why I don't see him getting into inside exchanges with Pac. His best bet is to use his length, speed and outside boxing skills to keep Pac at bay, lure him and land that devastating left "check" hook and straight right hand.

                    Originally posted by VAW-JR
                    I actually see him fighting Manny on the inside. Mayweather is much better there and Manny isn't very good there. He doesn't need to really exchange there though. He is very comfortable in the pocket and he can really pick and chooses his shots there. And him fighting at that close range would throw Manny off IMO.
                    He could but he won't, see my above post. /\/\

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