How you beat Pac and Mayweather....

[Larry the boss]

you can't beat pac unless you go to the body and slow him down.

wifebeater gets outworked if he potshots.

serious question..how can manny outwork floyd??floyds not gonna just stand there and let manny swing........ manny cant work if the opponent uses movement..so stop using the outwork angle..i cant see it,hes not gonna outbox floyd..he CAN ko floyd tho if floyd gets macho like the rest have

[Bushbaby]

We already know that a very good counter puncher can throw Pacman off.I think Floyd is physically stronger than I used to give him credit for & I believe he counter punches & fustrates Pacman to a wide ud.

[V.WEBB]

We already know that a very good counter puncher can throw Pacman off.I think Floyd is physically stronger than I used to give him credit for & I believe he counter punches & fustrates Pacman to a wide ud.

I also see this as a reason we will see Floyd fight Manny in close quarters.

[studentofthegam]

Pacquiao is most open to left uppercuts and body shots along the ropes.

Mayweather is most open to jab to the body right hand to the head combination. possibly also right hooks from the southpaw stance.

I think Zab hit him with more effective left hand straights

Mayweather doesn't need to go to Pac's body, that would be incredibly ******. To go to the body, you need to get close and exchange. Mayweather would out point Pac and go on to win a UD.

Won't be popular and might even be boring but he isn't a risk taker, you know this.

He only needs to fight inside when necessary. He will have to hold a lil bit. If he keeps his distance and uses lateral movement its easy.

I actually see him fighting Manny on the inside. Mayweather is much better there and Manny isn't very good there. He doesn't need to really exchange there though. He is very comfortable in the pocket and he can really pick and chooses his shots there. And him fighting at that close range would throw Manny off IMO.

Pac isnt great on the inside but he separates well. By that I mean he Floyd cant get comfortable inside. Thats the mistake all the other welters made and then he exploded on them. Floyd should fight tall and jab his ass to death. Hold and bully on the inside til the ref breaks it up.

[Pullcounter]

serious question..how can manny outwork floyd??floyds not gonna just stand there and let manny swing........ manny cant work if the opponent uses movement..so stop using the outwork angle..i cant see it,hes not gonna outbox floyd..he CAN ko floyd tho if floyd gets macho like the rest have

1) wifebeater's not as mobile anymore.

2) wifebeater don't punch unless he knows for sure the other guy is out of position to punch. but pac seemingly can punch from any position. this will keep wifebeater from punching so much and with low punch output comes the risk of getting outworked.

3) wifebeater won't punch when pac is punching. he won't risk trading with pac. if pac is constantly punching when in punching range, then wifebeater will never get a chance to punch. when your opponent is throwing more punches than you, there's a good chance you will get outworked.

that is why wifebeater will get outworked.

[Danny Gunz]

Boxing instinct says to always take the defensive fighter over the aggresive one, so if I bet on this fight I would definetly put my money on Floyd, I mean how could you bet against him.

Its just hard to judge because Floyd has had two fights against southpaws where he was taken out of his comfort zone (even thuogh he eventually took control). I just think that even though Manny has been fed pretty favorable opposition he would still be far and away the best fighter Floyd has faced. Manny's explosive combinations could really make Floyd uncomfortable.

With that said though Manny obviously had the two controversial fights against JMM, an inferior counter puncher to Floyd, where he was clearly having trouble.

This fight is just more up in the air then anything IMO.

[Pullcounter]

We already know that a very good counter puncher can throw Pacman off.I think Floyd is physically stronger than I used to give him credit for & I believe he counter punches & fustrates Pacman to a wide ud.

jmm is braver than wifebeater. jmm traded with pac. wifebeater won't.

wifebeater gets outworked.

[Pullcounter]

Boxing instinct says to always take the defensive fighter over the aggresive one

defensive fighters (whether peekaboo or slick) can get outworked. if you're too busy avoiding getting hit, then the other guy can take control of the pace and action. go watch pac/clottey, pwill/winky, khan/kotelnik, jmm/gainer, timmah/alexander, etc...

[Pullcounter]

I also see this as a reason we will see Floyd fight Manny in close quarters.

wifebeater will have no choice. pac will be on top of him all the time.

but where wifebeater is dangerous is when pac exits the pocket. that's when wifebeater does his best work, when his opponent is pulling out... especially if they pull out going straight back.

[Larry the boss]

1) wifebeater's not as mobile anymore.

2) wifebeater don't punch unless he knows for sure the other guy is out of position to punch. but pac seemingly can punch from any position. this will keep wifebeater from punching so much and with low punch output comes the risk of getting outworked.

3) wifebeater won't punch when pac is punching. he won't risk trading with pac. if pac is constantly punching when in punching range, then wifebeater will never get a chance to punch. when your opponent is throwing more punches than you, there's a good chance you will get outworked.

that is why wifebeater will get outworked.

manny can punch from any postion when his feet are set

floyd hasnt used his legs cause he hasnt had to..he'll use them against manny(hes to smart)

floyds a counter puncher(meaning hes best when the other fighter is punching)

and please stop saying wife beater floyds never even been married