Comments Thread For: V. Klitschko: Haye is a Coward, Clown, Avoiding Chagaev

[Chaos]

Please show me some quotes by boxing experts and historians that say undisputed champion is anything but winning all the major titles.


Yep he's the champion but not undisputed.

You're wrong on this one. You're like the Asians I went to school with. They'd get an A in English but couldn't string two sentences together. You spew out a dictionary definition but really know nothing about the sport.

[Chaos]

They agreed because it was a unification fight, because Wlad is fighting Chisora it might not be a unification fight because Wlad might lose. So they ordered him to fight his mandatory. Why is that so hard for people to understand?

Please show me where the WBA has stated this. So far it's just an excuse I keep hearing from Haye fans, but no one can provide a source.

[cklmaced]

Please show me where the WBA has stated this. So far it's just an excuse I keep hearing from Haye fans, but no one can provide a source.

Here you go http://www.boxingscene.com/haye-vs-c...-ruling--33271 only Chagaev medical condition has delayed the mandatory.

[Dave Rado]

Here you go http://www.boxingscene.com/haye-vs-c...-ruling--33271 only Chagaev medical condition has delayed the mandatory.

That has nothing to do with the post you were replying to. They only issued that ruling because Haye pulled out of the unification fight with Wlad. There is no evidence whatsoever that they would have issued that ruling if Haye had gone ahead with the unification. The guy you were replying to asked for evidence that they would have, and you haven't provided any. Once Haye pulled out of the unification, the WBA had no choice but to enforce the mandatory, but that has nothing to do with what they would have done if Haye hadn't pulled out of the unification.

As for Chagaev's medical condition, they are bending their rules over that, because there is no reason why Haye couldn't fight Chagaev in Germany, and take a vaccination jab, as Wlad did.

[cklmaced]

That has nothing to do with the post you were replying to. They only issued that ruling because Haye pulled out of the unification fight with Wlad. There is no evidence whatsoever that they would have issued that ruling if Haye had gone ahead with the unification. The guy you were replying to asked for evidence that they would have, and you haven't provided any. Once Haye pulled out of the unification, the WBA had no choice but to enforce the mandatory, but that has nothing to do with what they would have done if Haye hadn't pulled out of the unification.

As for Chagaev's medical condition, they are bending their rules over that, because there is no reason why Haye couldn't fight Chagaev in Germany, and take a vaccination jab, as Wlad did.

He didn't pull out Wlad decided to face Chisora for no reason whatsoever, the facts are there you just choose to ignore them.

[Chaos]

Here you go http://www.boxingscene.com/haye-vs-c...-ruling--33271 only Chagaev medical condition has delayed the mandatory.

That is not what I asked for. Obviously if he's not fighting Wlad he has to fight his mandatory. Show me where it says he'll be stripped of his title if he fights Wlad after Wlad fights Chisora.

[Chaos]

He didn't pull out Wlad decided to face Chisora for no reason whatsoever, the facts are there you just choose to ignore them.

Yes he did pull out. Wlad facing Chisora has nothing to do with Haye. I don't know why you bother defending him so much when he obviously doesn't give a **** about his fans or the sport. He's just a guy looking to make a quick buck with the least amount of effort and you're all buying into his cr*p.

[Dave Rado]

He didn't pull out Wlad decided to face Chisora for no reason whatsoever, the facts are there you just choose to ignore them.

Wlad chose to fight Chisora in April as a stay-busy fight, and to fight Haye in July. Wlad didn't pull out of the July fight, Haye did, and Haye pulled out for no reason whatsoever. The facts are there you just choose to ignore them.

As for why Wlad wanted the stay busy fight, the reason is so obvious that only a blind or ignorant person could be unaware of the reason. See here. But that has nothing to do with why Haye pulled out of the July fight, other than the fact that he was looking for an excuse to pull out.

And the July date is still open to Haye, even now - all he has to do is sign. But he doesn't want to. And he can sign to fight either brother, in either July or September, whichever he prefers. But he doesn't want to.

[Dynamite Kid]

Wlad chose to fight Chisora in April as a stay-busy fight, and to fight Haye in July. Wlad didn't pull out of the July fight, Haye did, and Haye pulled out for no reason whatsoever. The facts are there you just choose to ignore them.

As for why Wlad wanted the stay busy fight, the reason is so obvious that only a blind or ignorant person could be unaware of the reason. See here. But that has nothing to do with why Haye pulled out of the July fight, other than the fact that he was looking for an excuse to pull out.

And the July date is still open to Haye, even now - all he has to do is sign. But he doesn't want to. And he can sign to fight either brother, in either July or September, whichever he prefers. But he doesn't want to.

Dave. You remind me of one of those guys that writes into the radio times to complain about offensive language.

[DET. IRONSIDE]

And the July date is still open to Haye, even now - all he has to do is sign. But he doesn't want to. And he can sign to fight either brother, in either July or September, whichever he prefers. But he doesn't want to.

He can't sign for July until the Chisora fight is done.