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Look up the word "undisputed" in the dictionary. Even you don't dispute that he's THE champion. So who exactly is dis*****g it, other than some corrupt sanctioning organisations? Name one boxing expert who thinks that Golovkin is THE world champion rather than Martinez.
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Haye didn't give them a chance, he pulled out of the unification, and having done that, they had no choice but to insist on the mandatory. You're second-guessing what they might have done if he hadn't pulled out of the unification but he did pull out of it. Once he'd done that, they were forced to enforce the mandatory under their own rules. If you have any evidence that they would have enforced the mandatory even if he had gone ahead with the unification, let's see your evidence.
It would hardly have been in their interests to do so. They'll get a massive sanctioning fee if the fight ever happens, and no one seriously thinks Chisora has any chance against Wlad. I doubt even Chisora really thinks that.
Why wouldn't he? Haye could have afforded to pay him a lot more to not fight than to fight, and Chagaev could still have had a guaranteed title shot after that, like Ruiz did. No one in his position would be ****** enough to turn down an offer like that.
Amazing that someone who posts so many ****** statements has the temerity to call other posters a dunce.Comment
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It's not a unification fight if Wlad loses, you can only delay a madatory for a unification fight, not a possible unfication fight. This is common boxing knowledge.
Even if he believes he can win and become champ?Why wouldn't he? Haye could have afforded to pay him a lot more to not fight than to fight, and Chagaev could still have had a guaranteed title shot after that, like Ruiz did. No one in his position would be ****** enough to turn down an offer like that.Comment
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The point is you're playing silly word games because the word "undisputed" means "not in dispute" or "generally agreed", according to the dictionary, and you have already admitted that there is no serious dispute about whether Martinez is THE world champion currently, and that there is general agreement that he is. Even you have admitted that he is THE world champion. If he is not undisputed that means someone credible must be dis*****g it. But no one is.
They all regularly refer to the lineal champion as being THE world champion, which is what the word "undisputed" means. If you don't read their articles I am not going to wipe your bottom for you.Comment
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The WBA are willing to bend their rules by not enforcing the mandatory if the BBBC decides that it can't be held in the UK - even though there's no reason whatsoever why it couldn't be held in Germany. They bend their rules all the time. It would have been massively in their commercial interests to allow Haye to go ahead with the unification, which they'd already formally agreed to. They know as well as everyone else that Chisora has no chance of beating Wlad.
Ruiz probably thought he could win and become champ, but he also knew that there was a possibility that he could be wrong (most fighters convince themselves they can win their upcoming fight, but by definition, 50% of them are wrong), and he knew that it made financial sense to take the step-aside money and the guaranteed title shot to follow. All Haye would have had to do if he wanted the fight with Wlad or Vitali was to ask Chagaev, but he didn't ask him, because he didn't want to fight either Klitschko.Last edited by Dave Rado; 02-07-2011, 03:05 AM.Comment
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No, I don't have time to wipe your bottom for you. I have read hundreds of articles by boxing historians who refer to the lineal champion as being THE champion. And if there is general agreement about who THE champion is, then that by definition means that who the champion is is undisputed.
That definition of "undisputed champion" is completely meaningless and is 20 years out of date, as you are well aware. You're obviously far more interested in semantics than in boxing. Undisputed means not in dispute. If you're THE world champion, then it is not in dispute that you're the champion. End of story.Comment
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Haye is clearly ducking the Klitchkos. But the Klitchkos live in glass houses. They won't dare come down to a catchweight of 168 to meet JCCj because they know they would get destroyed.Klitschko: Haye is a Coward, ClownComment
That's quite funny because i posted a dictionary link to undisputed champion and you dismissed it. You also said that most boxing experts consider a lineal champ as undisputed but have provided no link to any expert saying it when asked for one.
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