So the Ring has bumped Devon alexander to #4

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  • jrosales13
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    #51
    Originally posted by AntDawg
    They are still ranked in the division just not top 10. How could you have rank someone higher who got destroyed but the judges gave it to him?
    Well Pac would not be rank at all at 154 if he officially lost. Especially since even right now he's not campaigning there. So what would be the point of ranking Pac at all at 154?

    Overall is a terrible example. One Alexander-Kotelnik was not as one sided as Pacquiao-Margarito.

    Two Pac doesn't have any body of work in that division to be ranked at all if he didn't get a decision against Marg.

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      #52
      Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK
      Consistency in the sense that Ring Magazine printed that they scored the fight for Kotelnik, thus they should print that they rank Kotelnik above Alexander in their own bloody rankings. I mean its not a difficult concept to grasp.
      The Ring Magazine is not one person. The rankings are made up from about 50 different voting members.

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        #53
        Originally posted by pistol whip
        Ugh the person who wins is the better fighter hello!!!!!
        Yes. HELLO. Earth to pistol whip. Did you watch the fight? Kotelnik was the better fighter.

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        • Steak
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          #54
          I dont see why we have to take what the 'official' judges say as fact.

          theyve screwed up more times than I can mention. and it takes no qualifications to be a judge anyway. you fill out some forms and youre good for it. I dont see how theyre any better judges than I am.

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            #55
            Originally posted by blackirish137
            I dont see why we have to take what the 'official' judges say as fact.

            theyve screwed up more times than I can mention. and it takes no qualifications to be a judge anyway. you fill out some forms and youre good for it. I dont see how theyre any better judges than I am.
            Thank *** for someone with common sense.

            I cant believe people are actually saying Alexander was the better fighter because the judges scored the fight for him....I mean seriously wtf is goin on here?

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            • Kagami Taiga
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              #56
              yes official judges screw up, but when u have a million ppl with their own opinions, it only makes sense to go with the ppl who were hired and vetted to perform the job. u think everyone at ring magazine thought koltenik won??? not even...

              therefore what u have is a situation with numerous opinions. u go with the judges. thats how u hand out belts thats how u rank fighters in the abc's etc. it only makes sense if u wanna be credible.

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              • AntDawg
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                #57
                Originally posted by jrosales13
                Well Pac would not be rank at all at 154 if he officially lost. Especially since even right now he's not campaigning there. So what would be the point of ranking Pac at all at 154?

                Overall is a terrible example. One Alexander-Kotelnik was not as one sided as Pacquiao-Margarito.

                Two Pac doesn't have any body of work in that division to be ranked at all if he didn't get a decision against Marg.
                Its a perfect example imo. He would still be ranked because he fought in the division he just wouldn't be ranked high. All was getting at is if one guy completely dominated a fight but the judges gave it to the guy that was getting beat up would you rank that guy higher because he officially won?
                Last edited by AntDawg; 02-03-2011, 08:26 PM.

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                • AddiX
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                  #58
                  Kotelnik is lucky to be at number 5 imo. I thought he won the fight, but he was landing punches anytime he wanted to and never went to really hurt Alexander.

                  People feel Kotelnik got robbed, but he got a nice paycheck to go to Alexanders home town. He knew what he had to do and he was content landing safe light punches all night.

                  Never feel bad for a fighter who goes to someone else's hometown for a paycheck and doesn't go for the kill. You can't tab your way to victory against a champion in there backyard.

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                    #59
                    Originally posted by AddiX
                    Kotelnik is lucky to be at number 5 imo. I thought he won the fight, but he was landing punches anytime he wanted to and never went to really hurt Alexander.

                    People feel Kotelnik got robbed, but he got a nice paycheck to go to Alexanders home town. He knew what he had to do and he was content landing safe light punches all night.

                    Never feel bad for a fighter who goes to someone else's hometown for a paycheck and doesn't go for the kill. You can't tab your way to victory against a champion in there backyard.
                    Wow this might win the award for dumbest logic and thats saying something

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                      #60
                      Originally posted by Smee
                      But he is widely belived to have got a gift, i think the ring scored the fight to kotelnik too
                      Originally posted by DempseyRollin
                      i dont think so...
                      Ring did give the fight to Kotelnik actually. After the fight, Kotelnik's rank jumped up a mile in light of the fact that he was robbed. They however kept Alexander at number 2 because "officially" he "defeated" Kotelnik.

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