So the Ring has bumped Devon alexander to #4

[Kagami Taiga]

Ring did give the fight to Kotelnik actually. After the fight, Kotelnik's rank jumped up a mile in light of the fact that he was robbed. They however kept Alexander at number 2 because "officially" he "defeated" Kotelnik.

no, im pretty sure doug fisher gave the fight to khan. but the other writer clearly gave it to alexander. ring isnt a person. how many times must this be said?

[jrosales13]

I dont see why we have to take what the 'official' judges say as fact.

theyve screwed up more times than I can mention. and it takes no qualifications to be a judge anyway. you fill out some forms and youre good for it. I dont see how theyre any better judges than I am.

Who the judges, you, me, and everybody thinks who won the fight is all opinion. However, Alexander having an official win in the record books over Kotelnik is a fact.

Its a perfect example imo. He would still be ranked because he fought in the division he just wouldn't be ranked high. All was getting at is if one guy completely dominated a fight but the judges gave it to the guy that was getting beat up would you rank that guy higher because he officially won?

No he wouldn't and shouldn't be ranked at all if he's not campaigning there nor does he have any type of body of work there. And, Kotelnik-Alexander wasn't as clear as that fight.

Ring did give the fight to Kotelnik actually. After the fight, Kotelnik's rank jumped up a mile in light of the fact that he was robbed. They however kept Alexander at number 2 because "officially" he "defeated" Kotelnik.

No one writer representing the ring had Kotelnik winning. Not a panel like the Ring has to create it's rankings.

[jrosales13]

no, im pretty sure doug fisher gave the fight to khan. but the other writer clearly gave it to alexander. ring isnt a person. how many times must this be said?

I think you mean Kotelnik right?

[Kagami Taiga]

I think you mean Kotelnik right?

lol, yea u got it

[jrosales13]

BTW, I'm just playing devil advocate here. In my personal list I have Kotelnik at #3 at 140. But, he's moving up to 147. So as soon as he has his first fight at 147 he will be taken off from my personal ranking.

But, just cuz' I don't personally have Alexander at #3 I don't think it's outrageous that The Ring or anybody else has Alexander #3. I really don't, I'm OK with that I won't argue cuz' I understand the reason behind it.

I personally have Alexander ahead of Maidana in my ranking. I have Alexander #4 and Maidana at #5. But, again if you have Maidana ahead of Alexander at #4 and have Alexander at #5...I'm OK with that cuz' I can see the reasoning behind that.

What I don't like though is people bitchin about Alexander being ranked ahead of Kotelnik but are not saying anything about Maidana being ranked ahead of Kotelnik. If Kotelnik should be ranked ahead of Alexander then he damn well should be ranked ahead of Maidan also.

[Kagami Taiga]

BTW, I'm just playing devil advocate here. In my personal list I have Kotelnik at #3 at 140. But, he's moving up to 147. So as soon as he has his first fight at 147 he will be taken off from my personal ranking.

But, just cuz' I don't personally have Alexander at #3 I don't think it's outrageous that The Ring or anybody else has Alexander #3. I really don't, I'm OK with that I won't argue cuz' I understand the reason behind it.

I personally have Alexander ahead of Maidana in my ranking. I have Alexander #4 and Maidana at #5. But, again if you have Maidana ahead of Alexander at #4 and have Alexander at #5...I'm OK with that cuz' I can see the reasoning behind that.

What I don't like though is people bitchin about Alexander being ranked ahead of Kotelnik but are not saying anything about Maidana being ranked ahead of Kotelnik. If Kotelnik should be ranked ahead of Alexander then he sure damn well should be ranked ahead of Maidan also.

i dunno but ppl have this allure about maidana. i mean the guy has never looked dominant in any fight vs a top quality opponenet but i guess they like his style so they feel hes better than the alexanders/kotelniks when they are all about the same imo. but to me, having a few good rounds per fight and still losing fights dont mean much. all the credit for beating ortiz, that was his best performance, but he was actually losing on the cards until ortiz quit. just saying...

[jrosales13]

i dunno but ppl have this allure about maidana. i mean the guy has never looked dominant in any fight vs a top quality opponenet but i guess they like his style so they feel hes better than the alexanders/kotelniks when they are all about the same imo. but to me, having a few good rounds per fight and still losing fights dont mean much. all the credit for beating ortiz, that was his best performance, but he was actually losing on the cards until ortiz quit. just saying...

I agree, I don't get it either. And, if Alexander fights Maidana next. Which I hear might happen in the summer. Since Alexander guarantee an HBO date for 1.25mil(so ****** for HBO to give him that guarantee but that is another debate). I might put money on Alexander beating Madiana. I really think he could.

[PEBBLES!]

I'm surprised Maidana is rated so highly, when we all know he is a one-dimensional brawler with zero boxing skills and has an overrated win over the coward Ortiz and got his ass dropped by Khan. Not to mention Kotelnik has a win over him and an arguable win over Devon, too.

[puga]

no big deal ...its either him or kotelnik and im one of them tho thnks devon beat kotelnik..........

[jrosales13]

I'm surprised Maidana is rated so highly, when we all know he is a one-dimensional brawler with zero boxing skills and has an overrated win over the coward Ortiz and got his ass dropped by Khan. Not to mention Kotelnik has a win over him and an arguable win over Devon, too.

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