Better Resume - Montiel or Darchinyan?

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  • £-4-£
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    #21
    Originally posted by MXboxingfan
    Should Tomas Rojas count as a notable win?

    Also, you forgot to include Z Gorres for Montiel.
    I only really included former world champions, interim champions, or people that went on to win world titles, that way it was more impartial and not based on my opinions of each fighter they faced.

    Originally posted by MXboxingfan
    I don't see Mijares or Arce ever beating Hasegawa. Maybe, they can beat Castillo. But never Haswegawa.
    Triangle theories. Just because Mijares and Arce cannot beat Hasegawa (in your opinion), it does not mean that Vic gets less credit for beating them than Montiel does for beating Hasegawa..

    The fact of the matter is that on paper Hasegawa, Mijares, Arce, Castillo, Alcazar, Hernandez and Pacheco are all very good wins and they would stand out on any modern 112-118lbs fighter's resumes. I tried to be impartial when compiling the list of wins each fighter had.
    Last edited by £-4-£; 02-02-2011, 03:01 PM.

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    • Shadows
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      #22
      The more I think about it, the more I see it as Vic's win over Mijares >>>> Montiel's over Hasegawa.

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        #23
        Originally posted by Shadows
        The more I think about it, the more I see it as Vic's win over Mijares >>>> Montiel's over Hasegawa.
        Care to elaborate why?

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        • RubenSonny
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          #24
          Originally posted by Rab-
          Montiel imo. his two losses are arguable towards him as well.
          ...........Johnson clearly beat him, if Montiel won it would have been a robbery.


          Originally posted by Eaner0919
          I see it as him hitting a lucky punch more than anything. HE, not Hase, was getting owned prior to the punch.
          He threw it with the intent of landing and finished in excellent fashion.

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            #25
            Originally posted by £-4-£
            Care to elaborate why?
            IMO, Mijares had beaten the better level of competition leading up to the fight with Darchinyan than Hasegawa did going into his fight with Montiel. I mean, when was the last time Hasegawa had beaten a top bantamweight? The first fight with Sahaprom? He had beaten a lot of decent fighters, but I just prefer Miajres' level of competition.

            Mijares was considered to be a P4P fighter then IIRC, whereas Hasegawa was on the cusp. I also like the fact that Darchinyan beat Mijares like a drum from rounds one to nine, his performance was more impressive than Montiel's, although I give Montiel credit for setting up his punching and going in for the kill.

            Just my take.

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              #26
              Originally posted by MXboxingfan
              Well of course they thought Gorres should have won. It was close fight that took place in Gorres's hometown.
              Yep, but it's more complicated than that. It's too long a story I didn't really wanna open.

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              • cleaner147
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                #27
                thats a really close one.

                I'd favor Vic, but lets wait how the Donaire-Montiel fight plays out.

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                • RIZO24
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                  #28
                  Darchynian has fought some good fighters, Arce, Mijares, Nonaire, Mares, Granted he has not won some of those fights, he will fight anyone!!It is hard to say wha has a better resume, If Montiel beats Nonaire i will give him the nod!!!

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by Shadows
                    IMO, Mijares had beaten the better level of competition leading up to the fight with Darchinyan than Hasegawa did going into his fight with Montiel. I mean, when was the last time Hasegawa had beaten a top bantamweight? The first fight with Sahaprom? He had beaten a lot of decent fighters, but I just prefer Miajres' level of competition.

                    Mijares was considered to be a P4P fighter then IIRC, whereas Hasegawa was on the cusp. I also like the fact that Darchinyan beat Mijares like a drum from rounds one to nine, his performance was more impressive than Montiel's, although I give Montiel credit for setting up his punching and going in for the kill.

                    Just my take.
                    I agree with that...

                    If you combine the dominance of the win and also add that Mijares had a better resume than Hasegawa did going into the fight. Then yea you can say that the Mijares win for Vic>>>>>>>>the Hasegawa win for Montiel.

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by jrosales13
                      I agree with that...

                      If you combine the dominance of the win and also add that Mijares had a better resume than Hasegawa did going into the fight. Then yea you can say that the Mijares win for Vic>>>>>>>>the Hasegawa win for Montiel.
                      jup, that win was a LOT huger/important.

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