Better Resume - Montiel or Darchinyan?

**theplayerpimp** · 02-02-2011, 01:25 PM

Originally posted by �-4-�

Fernando 'KO-chulito' Montiel [44 (34) - 2 (0) - 2] (71% KOs):

Notable victories:

- TKO-4 Hozumi Hasegawa (Prime, had 10 defenses of his WBC bantamweight title. Went on to win WBC Featherweight title)

- TKO-6 Pedro Alcazar (R.I.P) (Prime and undefeated. Was reigning WBO Super-Flyweight champion)

- KO-7 Ivan Hernandez (Prime and undefeated. Was WBO Super-Flyweight champion)

- TKO-7 Isidro Garcia (Prime, was reigning WBO Flyweight champion when Montiel beat him)

- KO-4 Martin Castillo (Former WBA Super-Flyweight champion)

- KO-1 Juan Domingo Cordoba (Former WBO Light-Flyweight champion)

- UD-12 Jose Lopez (Later won WBO Super-Flyweight title)

- KO-3 Rafael Concepion (Former Interim WBA Super-Flyweight champion)

Loses:

MD-12 to Mark Johnson (August 2003) [Defending WBO Super-flyweight title)

SD-12 to Jhonny Gonzalez (May 2006) Attempting to win WBO bantamweight title)

Titles:

- WBO Flyweight champion; Dec 2000 - Sep 2001; 3 defenses

- WBO Super-Flyweight champion; June 2002 - August 2003; 1 successful defense. Lost title to Mark Johnson by MD 12.

- WBO Super-Flyweight champion; April 2005 - May 2008; 7 successful defenses, relinquished title

- Interim WBO Bantamweight champion; March 2009. 0 defenses.

- WBO Bantamweight champion; Feb 2010 - present; 1 defense to date
- WBC Bantamweight champion; April 2010 - present; 1 defense to date

Accomplishments:

- 4-time, 3-weight world champion.

- Defeated 7 World champions, and 1 Interim champion.

18(14) - 2 (0) in World title fights (including 1 Interim title bout)

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Vic 'Raging Bull' Darchinyan [35 (27) - 3 (1) - 1] (69%).

Notable wins:

KO-9 Christian Mijares (Prime, undefeated in title fights (9-0) inc Interim bouts and was unified WBA Super/WBC Super Flyweight Champion; current IBF super-flyweight champ)

TKO-11 Irene Pacheco (Prime, undefeated 7-0 in title fights. was reigning IBF Flyweight champ)

RTD-11 Jorge Arce (10-2 in world title bouts coming into fight with Vic.. 8-0 in Interim fights. 18-2 overall in title fights) [2-time Light-Flyweight champ; former interim flyweight champ; 1-time super flyweight champ]

KO-2 Tomas Rojas [current WBC super flyweight champ]

KO-5 Dmitry Kirillov (was reigning IBF super-flyweight champ when he fought Vic)

TKO-12 Victor Burgos (former IBF light-flyweight champ)

TKO-4 and KO-5 Wandee Singwancha (former interim WBC minimum weight; interim WBC light flyweight;

Loses:

TKO-5 to Nonito Donaire (July 2007) (defending his IBF & IBO Flyweight titles)

UD-12 to Joseph Agbeko (July 2009) (attempting to win IBF Bantamweight title)

SD-12 to Abner Mares (Dec 2010) (defending IBO Bantamweight and attempting to win vacant WBC Silver Bantamweight title)

Titles:

- IBF Flyweight champ [Dec 2004 - July 2007]; 6 defenses. Lost title to Nonito Donaire (TKO-5).
- IBO Flyweight champ [March 2005 - July 2007]; 5 defenses. Lost title to
Nonito Donaire (TKO-5)

- IBO Super-Flyweight champ [Oct 2007] Vacated.

- IBF super-flyweight champ [Aug 2008 - Feb 2009]. Vacated
- WBA Super World/WBC super-flyweight champ [Nov 2008 - Mar 2010]; 3
defenses. Vacated.

- Lineal Super-Flyweight world title 2008-2010; 3 successful defenses.

- Undisputed Super-Flyweight World Champion (WBA, WBC, IBF) [Oct 2008 - Feb 2009] Vacated IBF title, therefore losing "undisputed title".

- IBO Bantamweight champ [May 2010 - Dec 2010]; 0 successful defense; lost title to Abner Mares SD-12.

Accomplishments:

- Two-weight world champion (3 if you include IBO titles)

- Former Undisputed/Lineal Super Flyweight champion

- 13 (10) - 3 (1) in world title fights (including IBO).

I think it has to go to montiel bc of his two victory againt hasegawa and againts castillo. Both where great fighters. And also bc of te fact that he became a 3 division champ while vic is stuck at banamweight with out him being able to beat any of the guys there.

**�-4-�** · 02-02-2011, 01:32 PM

In Vic's defense, he was lineal and undisputed champion super-flyweight (only the 2nd ever undisputed champ in the division's history).

His wins over Mijares and Arce are arguably just as good/if not better than Montiel's wins over Hasgawa and Castillo. However Montiel battered Hasegawa in Japan, which deserves a lot of praise.

I'm undecided, that's why I made this poll - to see what BoxingScene thinks.

**Rab-** · 02-02-2011, 01:58 PM

Montiel imo. his two losses are arguable towards him as well.

**�-4-�** · 02-02-2011, 02:00 PM

Originally posted by Rab-

Montiel imo. his two losses are arguable towards him as well.

Both were definitely very close I agree

**MXboxingfan** · 02-02-2011, 02:03 PM

Should Tomas Rojas count as a notable win?

Also, you forgot to include Z Gorres for Montiel.

**MXboxingfan** · 02-02-2011, 02:08 PM

Originally posted by �-4-�

In Vic's defense, he was lineal and undisputed champion super-flyweight (only the 2nd ever undisputed champ in the division's history).

His wins over Mijares and Arce are arguably just as good/if not better than Montiel's wins over Hasgawa and Castillo. However Montiel battered Hasegawa in Japan, which deserves a lot of praise.

I'm undecided, that's why I made this poll - to see what BoxingScene thinks.

I don't see Mijares or Arce ever beating Hasegawa. Maybe, they can beat Castillo. But never Haswegawa.

**boxer2k5** · 02-02-2011, 02:09 PM

personally i think darchinyan and montiel have the best resumes in boxing. win or lose they fight especially darchinyan who makes money win championships try to unify divisons and willing to fight anyone. besides them 2 marquez has the next best resume

**brick wall** · 02-02-2011, 02:11 PM

i'll give it to montiel.
both started and won their first title at 112. but the fact that montiel was able to bring his game to 118 and win a title give him the edge. vic tried his luck to win a title at 118 twice but failed.

**Shadows** · 02-02-2011, 02:15 PM

Originally posted by MXboxingfan

I don't see Mijares or Arce ever beating Hasegawa. Maybe, they can beat Castillo. But never Haswegawa.

They probably wouldn't at 118, but I agree with �-4-� in that Darchinyan's win over Mijares is at least equal to Montiel's over Hasegawa. In fact, when you think about it, the circumstances and predictions going into the fight were similar, thought the way the fights played out were different.

Better Resume - Montiel or Darchinyan?