Why Did Wladimir Collapse after 4 rounds and Vitaliy did not ?

[Pno]

agreed.

at least until someone knocks him down, much less out.

[Nautilus]

I basically agree with you, but Vitali started out in the 230s for his first 10 fights. Wlad has shown time and time again that he can't handle 245 lbs. I thought that one of his most awkward fights was against Barrett and he came into the fight at 244 lbs. Yes he dominated Barrett but he looked completely awkward in doing so. Wlad's best weight is 238-240 lbs.

So you really believe that Wlad merely outpunched himself?

[Nautilus]

Can you please reply to my comments at least, I gave a strong arguement.

I have replied to your weak argument above.

[urdaddyinAZ]

I have replied to your weak argument above.

Don't try acting hard.....four hours after we stopped even discussing the matter. Bottom line is there are 2-3 people that side with your story and about 20 people that see it somewhat the way I see it. Math doesn't lie!

[Nautilus]

Don't try acting hard.....four hours after we stopped even discussing the matter. Bottom line is there are 2-3 people that side with your story and about 20 people that see it somewhat the way I see it. Math doesn't lie!

They are two totally different people! You can't honestly think just because Vit can throw 50-80 punches for 8 rounds and not collapse that Wlad should be able to also, can you? I have a brother that is a world class marathon runner, but if I run for more than a couple miles I'll start puking! I think Wlad's problem in the Brewster fight was panic. Ever panic about something then feel totally drained afterwards? I think he was getting frustrated that he couldn't put Brewster away, then he got hit with a couple good shots and started to panic.....causing high amounts of fatigue.

The comparison of the two based on them being brothers is asinine.

1. Wlad is an established boxer, an Olympic champion and a former WBO world champion. Wlad has a VERIFIABLE history of boxing at a HIGH TEMPO. Plase do check the COMPUBOX numbers for his fight with Mercer, for example. Moreover, Wlad and Vitaliy have been training side-by-side for many years, having very identical routines that build stamina.

2. The same can not be said about you. As you stated, you are not an Olympic champion in marathon, not a world champion; you are not a runner; and you do not train with your brother. Thus, your own words show that you have provided a very poor example that FAILS to approximate my example with any reasonable degree.

3. Since you have provided a poor example, your only argument so far is the above proclamation of "asininity", as you say.

[Nautilus]

Don't try acting hard.....four hours after we stopped even discussing the matter. Bottom line is there are 2-3 people that side with your story and about 20 people that see it somewhat the way I see it. Math doesn't lie!

You exaggerate and bias the numbers. What Math? Give me a break.

You do not even know what Math is.

[Nautilus]

Don't try acting hard.....four hours after we stopped even discussing the matter. Bottom line is there are 2-3 people that side with your story and about 20 people that see it somewhat the way I see it. Math doesn't lie!

But your logic does fail you.

[Pno]

so if the majority of people believe something, it's true?

there are towns in this world where the majority of people believe the Holocaust never happened. so I guess the ***s lied about their oppression?

[Nautilus]

so if the majority of people believe something, it's true?

there are towns in this world where the majority of people believe the Holocaust never happened. so I guess the ***s lied about their oppression?

Exactly.



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[urdaddyinAZ]

The bottom line is you guys are pulling **** out of your ass to try and justify the fact Wlad lost to, what looked like at the time, an inferior boxer.

You don't know the absolute truth, neither do I. I just think after a majority of the people come on here and say (and justify with knowledge of the sport) they think Wlad punched himself out and lost his stamina. You guys could care less and continue to tell everybody else that they are forgetting that he's Vitali's brother. What in the hell does that have to do with the situation? Maybe I made a ****** comparison myself, but the brother factor thing is really where people are disagreeing. There is nothing anywhere that will justify the statements that were made that since one brother has certain skills and stamina, that the other does too. Do you know how slly that sounds? Have your opinion, I don't care.......let me have mine and don't try to slide your little one liners in 4 hours later to try and get the last word.