Why Did Wladimir Collapse after 4 rounds and Vitaliy did not ?

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  • Pno
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    #71
    That must have been false news that said someone got through security.

    my bad.

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    • marvdave
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      #72
      i think someone threw a water bottle at him from the grassy knoll. When the water from the bottle hit him, it caused a chemical reaction with the vasoline that was rubbed on him by Scott Peterson when they went fishing the previous day.

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      • Dark Destroyer
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        #73
        Originally posted by marvdave
        i think someone threw a water bottle at him from the grassy knoll. When the water from the bottle hit him, it caused a chemical reaction with the vasoline that was rubbed on him by Scott Peterson when they went fishing the previous day.
        LMAO Good one

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        • Nautilus
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          #74
          no trolling please

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          • Boxerdog
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            #75
            I really think that Wlad's collapse was predomanantly a "pacing" issue. Simply put, he shot his wad. I put most of the blame in his corner and with Manny Stewart mostly. The "expert legend" on the team has GOT to tell his fighter that he better keep something in the tank. Stewart is more interested in coming across as telegenic than anything else these days. He knows full well where his future lies.

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            • leff
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              #76
              Originally posted by Rick Reeno
              He said Vitali is a "naturally" larger man. Wladimir put on 40-50 pounds of muscle to become a heavyweight. Vitali is a natural heavyweight.
              They are both natural heavyweights, dont tell that you think wlad should have been at cruiserweight.

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              • MetalVomit
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                #77
                Originally posted by Nautilus
                Larry Merchant claimed that Wladimir had merely outpunched himself in the Brewster fight. Larry also said that Vitaliy is a smarter and more resourcefull fighter than Wladimir is, and that Vitaliy knows how to conserve his energy.

                The following Compubox numbers prove Larry Merchant's theory WRONG. The numbers show that Vitaliy boxed Danny at a substantially HIGHER TEMPO than Wladimir did against Lemon. Moreover, Vitaliy was able to easily maintain that HIGH TEMPO through round 8.

                These Compubox numbers raise a worrisome question:

                Why did Wlad collapse to the floor at the end of Round 4? (He then barely made it to round 5 and lost by a TKO.)



                I believed and now even stronger believe that there WAS something really wrong with Wlad's health that night (whatever the reasons were). I also think that there should be a W.Kltschko-Brewster rematch.


                Table 1. COMPUBOX PUNCH STATS for Vitaliy-Danny Fight:

                Vitaliy Klitschko 53/94 41/75 33/59 35/71 37/81 30/70 33/56 22/33 (mid-round stoppage)

                Danny Williams
                4/21 4/22 9/30 4/26 4/20 10/32 6/28 3/14



                Table 2. COMPUBOX PUNCH STATS for Wladimir-Lemon Fight:

                Wladimir Klitschko 33/78 32/77 24/59 20/58 11/39

                Lemon Brewster
                7/34 6/28 9/31 6/27 15/38


                I am not a Klitschko fanatic. And I have seen many fights. I have seen many men punch themselves out and get tired and exhausted. Wlad looked sick. I am not making excuses at all. He lost the fight, plain and simple. But something wasnt right after the first round of that fight. He looked ready to die after 3 minutes, a superbly conditioned athlete couldnt possibly look like that without something being wrong. Once again for you Klit bashers, I am not a fanboy, and I dont deny the loss. But something was not right, whether he ate something bad or was poisoned, whether it was a conspiracy or diarhea, something was wrong.
                Last edited by MetalVomit; 12-15-2004, 11:15 AM.

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                • Nautilus
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                  #78
                  Originally posted by Boxerdog
                  I really think that Wlad's collapse was predomanantly a "pacing" issue. Simply put, he shot his wad. I put most of the blame in his corner and with Manny Stewart mostly. The "expert legend" on the team has GOT to tell his fighter that he better keep something in the tank. Stewart is more interested in coming across as telegenic than anything else these days. He knows full well where his future lies.

                  But Vtialiy paced himself even at a higher tempo

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                  • marvdave
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                    #79
                    Originally posted by Nautilus
                    no trolling please
                    what does that mean?

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                    • Nautilus
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                      #80
                      Originally posted by marvdave
                      what does that mean?

                      never mind

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