Why Did Wladimir Collapse after 4 rounds and Vitaliy did not ?

[guru]

king is corrupt, but until there is some proof, it's more sensible to say wlad punched himself out than it is to say that king drugged him and then hid all evidence including blood samples at the hospital

[jabsRstiff]

why did he get tired though?

Because he has confidence problems.....lots of self-doubt.
He does not handle pressure well.

Do you think this is uncommon in boxing ?
It's not....in fact, I believe it's what separates the elite fighters from the rest of the world.

Wlad lacks the instincts that a real fighter needs.
Perhaps he's too much of a deep thinker to be a supreme fighter ?
That's what I think..because I see the PHYSICAL TOOLS are there, but they're held back by his psyche.

[Nautilus]

king is corrupt, but until there is some proof, it's more sensible to say wlad punched himself out than it is to say that king drugged him and then hid all evidence including blood samples at the hospital

I think it is safer to say that Wlad did not posses his usual stamina that day, and stop right there

[Pno]

it's either that same conspiracy you're talking about (and I support) or SERIOUS COINCIDENCE.

you decide.

[guru]

I think it is safer to say that Wlad did not posses his usual stamina that day, and stop right there

thats fine too...

[Nautilus]

Because he has confidence problems.....lots of self-doubt.
He does not handle preesure well.

Do you think this is uncommon in boxing ?
It's not....in fact, I believe it's what separates the elite fighters from the rest of the world.

Wlad lacks the instincts that a real fighter needs.
Perhaps he's too much of a deep thinker to be a supreme fighter ?
That's what I think..because I see the PHYSICAL TOOLS are there, but they're held back by his psyche.

You may be right, but I would really love to see Brestwer-WK II.

This fight will test all of the existing theories rigorously.

[guru]

initialy i though it was a health related issue like diabetes or something, but since nothing has come of it, that isn't the case...

some guys like tommy morrison and foreman when he was young, don't relax well in the ring and punch every punch with all their power... and then tire very easy... it may or may not be the case with wlad...

[urdaddyinAZ]

urdaddyinAZ....

so you're saying that Don King has NEVER fixed a fight, that Byrd beat Mcline, Ruiz beat Golota, that Don King is the most fair guy in boxing?

you honestly think that Don King is not the most corrupt guy in boxing?

You are right, I think Don King has done some scandalous things. Plant a mysterious person in Klit's locker room? Poison him? Steal samples from hospital? For Lamon Brewster......no way in hell.

[Nautilus]

You are right, I think Don King has done some scandalous things. Plant a mysterious person in Klit's locker room? Poison him? Steal samples from hospital? For Lamon Brewster......no way in hell.

K2 said ony:

1. There were NO mysterious people. (officially at least)
2. Analyses did go missing. K2 posted the documents on the web, including their attorney's letter asserting that.

[Pno]

the poison, stealing samples is hearsay.. who really knows. no need to blame that on DK.
BUT there was a member of Klitshko's camp that was told "I'm showing that you've already shown up (not exact words)" when he arrived as in someone posed in place of him.

either way, only a rematch will prove anything... it's probably too late for any investigators to solve anything on this one.