Why Did Wladimir Collapse after 4 rounds and Vitaliy did not ?

[Nautilus]

Larry Merchant claimed that Wladimir had merely outpunched himself in the Brewster fight. Larry also said that Vitaliy is a smarter and more resourcefull fighter than Wladimir is, and that Vitaliy knows how to conserve his energy.

The following Compubox numbers prove Larry Merchant's theory WRONG. The numbers show that Vitaliy boxed Danny at a substantially HIGHER TEMPO than Wladimir did against Lemon. Moreover, Vitaliy was able to easily maintain that HIGH TEMPO through round 8.

These Compubox numbers raise a worrisome question:

Why did Wlad collapse to the floor at the end of Round 4? (He then barely made it to round 5 and lost by a TKO.)



I believed and now even stronger believe that there WAS something really wrong with Wlad's health that night (whatever the reasons were). I also think that there should be a W.Kltschko-Brewster rematch.


Table 1. COMPUBOX PUNCH STATS for Vitaliy-Danny Fight:

Vitaliy Klitschko 53/94 41/75 33/59 35/71 37/81 30/70 33/56 22/33 (mid-round stoppage)

Danny Williams 4/21 4/22 9/30 4/26 4/20 10/32 6/28 3/14



Table 2. COMPUBOX PUNCH STATS for Wladimir-Lemon Fight:

Wladimir Klitschko 33/78 32/77 24/59 20/58 11/39

Lemon Brewster 7/34 6/28 9/31 6/27 15/38

[vB Martin]

Vit is a naturally larger man than Wlad, therefore more able to carry the weight. Remember, Wlad fought in the Olympics at 91kg. That means he's added nearly 50 lbs of muscle mass in a relatively short amount of time and his body can't handle the weight.

[leff]

Vit is a naturally larger man than Wlad, therefore more able to carry the weight. Remember, Wlad fought in the Olympics at 91kg. That means he's added nearly 50 lbs of muscle mass in a relatively short amount of time and his body can't handle the weight.

Listen wlad is 1 inch shortet than vit and useally weighs 240-245 while vit y\useally weigh 245-250. You call that a big different, wlad has had higher tempo before. theres something fishy here.

Wlad was pushdown to 91 because vit was supposed to be in 91+
He pushed himself down a lot and had big problems making that weight.

Besides thats 8 years ago i think you get used to 40-50 pounds of muscle weight in that time.

[leff]

Larry Merchant claimed that Wladimir had merely outpunched himself in the Brewster fight. Larry also said that Vitaliy is a smarter and more resourcefull fighter than Wladimir is, and that Vitaliy knows how to conserve his energy.

The following Compubox numbers prove Larry Merchant's theory WRONG. The numbers show that Vitaliy boxed Danny at a substantially HIGHER TEMPO than Wladimir did against Lemon. Moreover, Vitaliy was able to easily maintain that HIGH TEMPO through round 8.

These Compubox numbers raise a worrisome question:

Why did Wlad collapse to the floor at the end of Round 4? (He then barely made it to round 5 and lost by a TKO.)



I believed and now even stronger believe that there WAS something really wrong with Wlad's health that night (whatever the reasons were). I also think that there should be a W.Kltschko-Brewster rematch.


Table 1. COMPUBOX PUNCH STATS for Vitaliy-Danny Fight:

Vitaliy Klitschko 53/94 41/75 33/59 35/71 37/81 30/70 33/56 22/33 (mid-round stoppage)

Danny Williams 4/21 4/22 9/30 4/26 4/20 10/32 6/28 3/14



Table 2. COMPUBOX PUNCH STATS for Wladimir-Lemon Fight:

Wladimir Klitschko 33/78 32/77 24/59 20/58 11/39

Lemon Brewster 7/34 6/28 9/31 6/27 15/38

I agree with you, it dont make sense.

[jabsRstiff]

Nautilus...

PLEASE....stop with the excuses !

For the last time you psychotic Klit fans....

Wlad Klit is a MENTALLY WEAK fighter.
If ANY of you GEEKS had ever boxed for real....you'd realize how a fighter without true confidence could fizzle out.

Vitali is more of a poised, natural fighter than his younger brother.
He doesn't PANIC....& that's why he HOLDS HIS **** TOGETHER !


GOT IT ?

[Dark Destroyer]

Wladimir is just a poor calibre fighter compared to his older brother. He had a lot of potential but it seems to have fizzled away. Losing to Sanders was one bad sign and then losing to Brewster was shocking because Brewster is a terrible fighter in my opinion for a so called top Heavyweight Champion.

[Nautilus]

Nautilus...

PLEASE....stop with the excuses !

For the last time you psychotic Klit fans....

Wlad Klit is a MENTALLY WEAK fighter.
If ANY of you GEEKS had ever boxed for real....you'd realize how a fighter without true confidence could fizzle out.

Vitali is more of a poised, natural fighter than his younger brother.
He doesn't PANIC....& that's why he HOLDS HIS **** TOGETHER !


GOT IT ?

Prove this. You do not have any evidence to back up your claims.

At least I try to argue my opinions with numbers and facts, and you do it with SLOGANS.

[jabsRstiff]

Prove this. You do not have any evidence to back up your claims.

At least I try to argue my opinions with numbers and facts, and you do it with SLOGANS.

Let me tell you something....you & your buddy Neuraxis like numbers too much.

Go talk those numbers in a boxing gym, & watch how you get laughed out of there.

You don't have any "facts" here !
I have more to base my theory on than do you.
You base your theory on the numbers of two fighting brothers....do you know how ridiculous that is ?

This is boxing, not Algebra....your numbers don't cut it here.
If you ever boxed, or spoke with people involved with the game, you'd never put this nonsense out there.

[urdaddyinAZ]

Larry Merchant claimed that Wladimir had merely outpunched himself in the Brewster fight. Larry also said that Vitaliy is a smarter and more resourcefull fighter than Wladimir is, and that Vitaliy knows how to conserve his energy.

The following Compubox numbers prove Larry Merchant's theory WRONG. The numbers show that Vitaliy boxed Danny at a substantially HIGHER TEMPO than Wladimir did against Lemon. Moreover, Vitaliy was able to easily maintain that HIGH TEMPO through round 8.

These Compubox numbers raise a worrisome question:

Why did Wlad collapse to the floor at the end of Round 4? (He then barely made it to round 5 and lost by a TKO.)



I believed and now even stronger believe that there WAS something really wrong with Wlad's health that night (whatever the reasons were). I also think that there should be a W.Kltschko-Brewster rematch.


Table 1. COMPUBOX PUNCH STATS for Vitaliy-Danny Fight:

Vitaliy Klitschko 53/94 41/75 33/59 35/71 37/81 30/70 33/56 22/33 (mid-round stoppage)

Danny Williams 4/21 4/22 9/30 4/26 4/20 10/32 6/28 3/14



Table 2. COMPUBOX PUNCH STATS for Wladimir-Lemon Fight:

Wladimir Klitschko 33/78 32/77 24/59 20/58 11/39

Lemon Brewster 7/34 6/28 9/31 6/27 15/38

They are two totally different people! You can't honestly think just because Vit can throw 50-80 punches for 8 rounds and not collapse that Wlad should be able to also, can you? I have a brother that is a world class marathon runner, but if I run for more than a couple miles I'll start puking! I think Wlad's problem in the Brewster fight was panic. Ever panic about something then feel totally drained afterwards? I think he was getting frustrated that he couldn't put Brewster away, then he got hit with a couple good shots and started to panic.....causing high amounts of fatigue.

The comparison of the two based on them being brothers is asinine.

[jabsRstiff]

They are two totally different people! You can't honestly think just because Vit can throw 50-80 punches for 8 rounds and not collapse that Wlad should be able to also, can you? I have a brother that is a world class marathon runner, but if I run for more than a couple miles I'll start puking! I think Wlad's problem in the Brewster fight was panic. Ever panic about something then feel totally drained afterwards? I think he was getting frustrated that he couldn't put Brewster away, then he got hit with a couple good shots and started to panic.....causing high amounts of fatigue.

The comparison of the two based on them being brothers is asinine.

Amen, urdaddy.