Who has a better resume, Joe Calzaghe or Juan Diaz?

[studentofthegam]

if youre assuming that Diaz legitimately beat Malignaggi(most think of it as a robbery and I was treating it as such) then yes, Diaz beating Malignaggi>Calzaghe beating Roy Jones Jr.

regardless, Calzaghe does clearly have a better resume than Juan Diaz.

You just like arguing with me because..................
Yes sir, Paulie got taken by the judges but it doesnt change the W for Diaz. The bottom line is we agree I guess?
**** it, you tell me if thats the case.

[Steak]

You just like arguing with me because..................
Yes sir, Paulie got taken by the judges but it doesnt change the W for Diaz. The bottom line is we agree I guess?
**** it, you tell me if thats the case.

yes, we agree.

...?

ha

[jrosales13]

Babados Joe Walcott was decking Heavyweights as a Welterweight including recognized Heavy Fred Russel who weighed 100 lbs more and was a foot an half or so taller, he does have an argument as hardest puncher and for arguments sake I'm going to presume that you would of added that "'insert black fighter here' is hardest puncher ever" quote regardless of who was inserted as long as they were black. What white boxer at Welter hit as hard as Joe Walcott or what white boxer hit harder then the hardest hitting black boxer pound for pound ?.

Mayweather isn't a great boxer ?.

All of these 'racist comments' are just opinions on boxing and in no way suggests he is a racist at all, you are really nitpicking right there.

Ruben is not racist, do you do this with everyone that disagree's with you ?

I'd be willing to debate with you especially about Gavilan not being great or are you not going to bother and just say I'm a racist as well just for having these opinions.

Actually, he does. I'm a racist as well, I hate whites, I hate Mexicans, I only like Afro-Latinos(because, apparently I guess I'm an Afro-Latino) and black fighters(I guess my post history shows how big of a Floyd fan I am).

Tunney is not a good poster at all. And, he lacks knowledge of the sport. Once he is in a debate that he can't win, he will throw the racist card, put you on ignore, and make polls about you like a little insecure mentally disabled kid that he is.

Oh yea and edit your post to fit his little racial driving agenda. He's borderline a garbage troll of a poster.

And no I'm not black I'm Greek / Scottish, white.

Look at this self hating white man right here

[daggum]

A win over a shot Roy is still better than a controversial decision over Malignaggi right. Not the greatest win just better than the comparison.

where does that come from? lakva sim and julien lorcy are better than tocker pudwill and mario veit. katsidis and julio diaz are better than manfredo and juan carlos giminez ferrari. what kind of comparisons are these? roy jones was terrible when calzaghe fought him and wasn't even one of his top 5 wins.

i don't give credit to diaz for beating malignaggi just like i don't give calzaghe credit for beating hopkins because they both lost. difference is hopkins is calzaghe's best win and malignaggi isn't diaz's best win.

[£-4-£]

Calazaghe, by a country mile. Calzaghe is the greatest SMW of all time and is a top-100 ATG.

- Eubank (past-prime)

- Robin Reid (prime)

- Richie Woodhall

- Mario Veit x2 (prime and undefeated)

- Charles Brewer (past-prime)

- Byron Mitchell

- Sakio Bika (prime)

- Lacy (prime, undefeated)

- Kessler (prime, undefeated)

- Hopkins (past-prime but was still the lineal champion at LHW when Calzaghe beat him, and he is still the best Light-Heavyweight around)

- RJJ (past-prime)

He was lineal champion at 2 weight divisions, and pretty much undisputed SMW champion, having held all 4 titles at the division at some point in his undefeated career of 46-0.

[daggum]

Calazaghe, by a country mile. Calzaghe is the greatest SMW of all time and is a top-100 ATG.

- Eubank (past-prime)

- Robin Reid (prime)

- Richie Woodhall

- Mario Veit x2 (prime and undefeated)

- Charles Brewer (past-prime)

- Byron Mitchell

- Sakio Bika (prime)

- Lacy (prime, undefeated)

- Kessler (prime, undefeated)

- Hopkins (past-prime but was still the lineal champion at LHW when Calzaghe beat him, and he is still the best Light-Heavyweight around)

- RJJ (past-prime)

He was lineal champion at 2 weight divisions, and pretty much undisputed SMW champion, having held all 4 titles at the division at some point in his undefeated career of 46-0.

sven ottke ftw

[Naps]

no, he wouldnt have.

apart from the fact he struggled and got a gift in his next fight and he went on to struggle and get more gifts against Mendoza and Griffin, he also had a hard time against Omar Sheika and Syd Vanderpool.

Kessler win>Lacy. even Bika would have probably beaten Lacy.

I didnt say Diaz. I said Malignaggi. Diaz won the first friend. Bhop shuts Diaz down though. I felt like the differences in resumes was that far apart. get it?



Lacy got drilled by that same shot RJJ. Guys this is really easy.

Only reason Lacy failed is because Zaggy boxed the talent out him.

Pre Calzaghe Lacy >>>> old RJJ

[Steak]

Only reason Lacy failed is because Zaggy boxed the talent out him.

Pre Calzaghe Lacy >>>> old RJJ

well I can agree with that comparison.

but Lacy would not have 'dominated the sport', had Calzaghe never existed.

[daggum]

Only reason Lacy failed is because Zaggy boxed the talent out him.

Pre Calzaghe Lacy >>>> old RJJ

there never was any talent in lacy. watch his old fights. he was a slow one dimensional fighter. he got outboxed by syd vanderpool and rubin williams before getting early stoppages. he had a debatable win over sheika. his best win was over robin reid but he benefited from being able to rabbit punch him to 5 knockdowns. where's the talent?

why do you think calzaghe took the fight? he was an easy mark with a big reward. we have enough evidence pre calzaghe and post calzaghe to say lacy was not very good.

[SNVDoublePunch!]

I just stopped in to see how ******ed this thread would end up. Pretty ******ed, I guess. It was bound to happen from the poll option on down. Good job.