Who has a better resume, Joe Calzaghe or Juan Diaz?

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  • puga
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    #161
    joe zaghe>>>>>>>juan diaz>>>>>>>amir khan.....

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    • D-MiZe
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      #162
      Is there any motherfucker in this thread that has actually tried to make a case for Diaz?

      Calzaghe's resume is so much better that after a few days, I'm going to put all the ****s who voted Diaz in their own little hall of fame.

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        #163
        Originally posted by daggum
        ottke by majority decision 114-113 114-113 114-114
        Calzaghe by wide UD 118-109, 117-110, 117-110. Ottke gets dropped at least once.

        or

        Calzaghe win by TKO 10.

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        • daggum
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          #164
          Originally posted by £-4-£
          Calzaghe by wide UD 118-109, 117-110, 117-110. Ottke gets dropped at least once.

          or

          Calzaghe win by TKO 10.
          what's gonna drop him? is he nursing an ankle injury or something?

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          • studentofthegam
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            #165
            Originally posted by daggum
            where does that come from? lakva sim and julien lorcy are better than tocker pudwill and mario veit. katsidis and julio diaz are better than manfredo and juan carlos giminez ferrari. what kind of comparisons are these? roy jones was terrible when calzaghe fought him and wasn't even one of his top 5 wins.

            i don't give credit to diaz for beating malignaggi just like i don't give calzaghe credit for beating hopkins because they both lost. difference is hopkins is calzaghe's best win and malignaggi isn't diaz's best win.
            Once again look back and see what fights I compared. Now that I look at your lil picture I see theres no reasonable debate possible. You dedicated it to hating Zags no matter what. A win over Hopkins trumphs all the baby bull's win. Thats my opinion and its stayin. Who are...LOL... you to give or take credit for a win or loss by a fighter. If you are not Diaz then you dont have the authority. Once its on the books thats it.

            Originally posted by Naps
            It's easy to discredit Lacyniw, but before Calzaghe ge was the bookies favourite and everyone said he would destroy Calzaghe. Think back to what everyone was saying, Lacy was meant to be the next Tyson, and he would have been if Zags hadn't schooled him.
            I remember lots of people saying Joe was in trouble because Lacy was so strong. I thought he just needed a show and tell fight and that was it. For the first time I could say Joey Zags totally brutalized somebody. No one, nt even me expected it to come like that. Quality win at the time.

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              #166
              Originally posted by studentofthegam
              Once again look back and see what fights I compared. Now that I look at your lil picture I see theres no reasonable debate possible. You dedicated it to hating Zags no matter what. A win over Hopkins trumphs all the baby bull's win. Thats my opinion and its stayin. Who are...LOL... you to give or take credit for a win or loss by a fighter. If you are not Diaz then you dont have the authority. Once its on the books thats it.



              I remember lots of people saying Joe was in trouble because Lacy was so strong. I thought he just needed a show and tell fight and that was it. For the first time I could say Joey Zags totally brutalized somebody. No one, nt even me expected it to come like that. Quality win at the time.

              it's my opinion that hopkins beat calzaghe clearly. and i reached that opinion by using the evidence of hopkins out landing calzaghe by a wide margin and having the harder punches in at least 6 of the rounds. this is not disputable. it's been broken down time and time again. it's your opinion that calzaghe won and you base that off faulty compubox numbers and "faked" low blows. i guess we just have different ways of scoring fights. i use the rules and you use emotion.

              i'm a boxing fan. who are the official judges? you trust people who are notoriously corrupt and incompetent? i'm gonna make up my own mind. if i think someone lost then they lost in my mind. i don't consider the "official" decision in any way. i'm not a sheep. you probably think casamayor beat santa cruz and chavez beat whitaker. because that's what the authority said! or do you just pick and choose when you agree with authority when it suits you?

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                #167
                Originally posted by daggum
                it's my opinion that hopkins beat calzaghe clearly. and i reached that opinion by using the evidence of hopkins out landing calzaghe by a wide margin and having the harder punches in at least 6 of the rounds. this is not disputable. it's been broken down time and time again. it's your opinion that calzaghe won and you base that off faulty compubox numbers and "faked" low blows. i guess we just have different ways of scoring fights. i use the rules and you use emotion.

                i'm a boxing fan. who are the official judges? you trust people who are notoriously corrupt and incompetent? i'm gonna make up my own mind. if i think someone lost then they lost in my mind. i don't consider the "official" decision in any way. i'm not a sheep. you probably think casamayor beat santa cruz and chavez beat whitaker. because that's what the authority said! or do you just pick and choose when you agree with authority when it suits you?
                It was a close fight. Hopkins didnt do a whole lot either. Its not like Marquez/Barrera or Malignaggi/Diaz IMO. But once its history its history man. He proved that he belonged there unlike Diaz who stepped up and got punished by Marquez. Come to think of it his best fight was the first with Marquez and he ended up on his ass. He just didnt have that other gear and Zags did. Im not calling him a waist of gloves, but I wont make pretty good better than great.

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                • prinzemanspopa
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                  #168
                  This thread provided the LULZ.

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                  • Joeyzagz
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                    #169
                    This ****** thread is why I have drifted from NSB as of late.

                    Juan Diaz is a street rat compared to Joe Calzaghe.

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                    • BennyST
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                      #170
                      Originally posted by blackirish137
                      youre comparing a win to a loss....

                      a shot Roy isnt better than a win over Julio Diaz.

                      Calzaghe has much better wins than his one over Jones, which most people(smartly) dont count at all.
                      It's funny how important names become. If you beat a shot great, it's much better than beating a prime solid champion who would be a much better fighter at that point than the name guy.

                      These name guys that are still hanging around have their names thrown about as something amazing when in actual fact they are no better than the worst champion in the divisions; Oscar, Jones, Mosley, etc

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