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  • Real King Kong
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    #51
    Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK
    Whats this drained crap? Everyones weight drained now. Hatton never missed weight. He always balooned up between fights but always made the 140 limit which was his optimal weight.
    this.

    the argument that hatton is a better fighter at 147 holds no weight. he went to 147 twice...looked like ****...lost and returned to 140 immediately both times and had decent wins.

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      #52
      Originally posted by ADP02
      BUT even for those fights, they were too small, too old ,.... lol!

      Hatton - Was a career 140 fighter. Yet Floyd fought him at 147

      Marquez - Fought only twice at 135, never fought at 140 not 147. Yet Floyd fought him at 147!!!

      Mosley - Hadn't fought in 16 months. Therefore, his ratings was based on January 2009 NOT May 2010.
      - Mosley was turning 39 and inactive.
      - Floyd said BEFORE the fight, my game plan will take into consideration that Mosley is now an OLD fighter.
      *****s got owned!!!!!!

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      • cupocity303
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        #53
        Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK
        Whats this drained crap? Everyones weight drained now. Hatton never missed weight. He always balooned up between fights but always made the 140 limit which was his optimal weight.
        What's this drained crap? Simple, it's based on observation.

        Hatton knew that he had no choice but to drain himself back to 140 after that horrible performance against Collazo.

        He was stuck in weight-class purgatory. He was too big for 140 and he was too small and not skilled enough for 147. So he chose 140 where he felt he could have more success and thus had to have 12 week training camps, when other fighters only have 8 week camps, to shed all that extra weight.

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          #54
          Originally posted by cupocity303
          What's this drained crap? Simple, it's based on observation.

          Hatton knew that he had no choice but to drain himself back to 140 after that horrible performance against Collazo.

          He was stuck in weight-class purgatory. He was too big for 140 and he was too small and not skilled enough for 147. So he chose 140 where he felt he could have more success and thus had to have 12 week training camps, when other fighters only have 8 week camps, to shed all that extra weight.
          He did it throughout his whole career with sucess at 140.

          He was a smaller man at 147, not just weight wise but frame, height and reach. He had no business there.

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            #55
            Originally posted by considerthis
            this.

            the argument that hatton is a better fighter at 147 holds no weight. he went to 147 twice...looked like ****...lost and returned to 140 immediately both times and had decent wins.

            No, not that he is a better fighter.

            But that he is a more healthy fighter at 147.

            The size of his opponents was the only difference, BUT Floyd didn't have much size to begin with, seeing how he came up from 130 originally, so that excuse doesn't hold much weight.

            Floyd too is a better fighter at 135 and 140, he has more punching power there and he is a bit faster at the lower weight classes, but he still was effective at 147 and 154 because he has defense. His workrate slowed down but he adjusted and learned how to beat bigger opponents.

            Hatton couldn't adjust in a new weight class and thus Floyd >>> Hatton even if they never fought.

            At 140, Floyd only would've had more power and a little more speed and the outcome would've probably been the same. He doesn't drain himself to get to 140 like Hatton does.

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              #56
              Originally posted by cupocity303
              Actually no correction necessary.

              I was speaking in broad terms, that Hatton was Top 10 P4P guy, I didn't say he was # 10.

              I knew that Marquez was in the Top 5, I didn't say that he was # 5.

              I knew that Mosley was somewhere in the Top 5 but didn't bother looking it up, I didn't say he was # 5.


              Jumping the gun, comprehension isn't your best attribute.
              Bold: No it's not...Smooching Floyd's sack is...

              Even in a topic that is giving Floyd props, dude just can't help himself (speaking of CashCow)...

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                #57
                Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK
                "Took his soul" and "weight drained" are two of the most overused phrases in boxing nowadays.

                Naz retired cos he couldnt be arsed boxing anymore, was hurting his hands constantly and had made a shed load of money. Yet you act like his loss to Barrera (which wasnt even a bad beating) sent him into some deep depresion....lol
                People have a point when they are talking about that boxer who has all of his career accomplishments at 122, where he is weight drained, but sometimes fights poorly at 126... he actually takes souls... his name is Shang Tsung.

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                  #58
                  Originally posted by cupocity303
                  What's this drained crap? Simple, it's based on observation.

                  Hatton knew that he had no choice but to drain himself back to 140 after that horrible performance against Collazo.

                  He was stuck in weight-class purgatory. He was too big for 140 and he was too small and not skilled enough for 147. So he chose 140 where he felt he could have more success and thus had to have 12 week training camps, when other fighters only have 8 week camps, to shed all that extra weight.
                  Lol, I just figured out who you were... I feel like an idiot. What's good Vlad?

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                    #59
                    Originally posted by HandSpeed303
                    Bold: No it's not...Smooching Floyd's sack is...

                    Even in a topic that is giving Floyd props, dude just can't help himself (speaking of CashCow)...
                    Co-sign with my cousin from the 303 Family tree.

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                      #60
                      Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK
                      "Took his soul" and "weight drained" are two of the most overused phrases in boxing nowadays.

                      Naz retired cos he couldnt be arsed boxing anymore, was hurting his hands constantly and had made a shed load of money. Yet you act like his loss to Barrera (which wasnt even a bad beating) sent him into some deep depresion....lol
                      I disagree.

                      I think mentally Nas was done because he was obsessed with being undefeated. So was Trinidad.

                      The fact that there were fighters out there that they knew were superior to them, ate away at them.

                      It wasn't a bad beating, but a dominant one. He had no grounds for a rematch nor did he really want one. Neither did Tito.

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