Say what you want about Mayweather's inactivity, but he fights P4P Elites

[ADP02]

So by that mentality, Marvin Hagler fought a bunch of guys who did nothing at Middleweight. While great (Duran, Hearns), they were irrelevant at 160 right?

And he lost to a Sugar Ray Leonard who not only did nothing at 160 but did nothing at all in boxing for years.

Congratulations, you just shat on a huge percentage of Hagler's resume.




P.S. I could give plenty of examples of smaller great fighters moving up to face bigger great fighters to dispose that silly little argument. The notion that you only get credit if you face natural contenders of your present weight class is ridiculous.

So what!

People moving up and doing something, OK (even Manny did it but people criticized Oscar for fighting the smaller guy, remember? Manny was praised. It was a lose lose situation for Oscar. Same for Floyd!)

BUT

you are talking about Marquez who fought only twice at 135, never at 140 and never at 147
BUT you want us to forget about that and just consider that he was a top P4P?

That is ridiculous and has NOTHING to do with other fighter's accomplishments. Floyd vs Marquez was embarrassing no matter how high Marquez was rated.

Even Floyd fans say that if Manny vs Marquez fight at 140+, Marquez would not be effective ....

Even Floyd said AFTER being criticized, "oh, it was just a tune-up fight" .... see!!!

[Phenom]

expectation is different people expected Floyd to fight the best and he knows he won't be able to sell PPVs if there is zero chance of him losing. Floyd cant get away with fighting washed up boxers they have to at least looked dangerous in the previous fights thats why his next fight is either with Berto or Martinez

[cupocity303]

So what!

People moving up and doing something, OK (even Manny did it but people criticized Oscar for fighting the smaller guy, remember? Manny was praised. It was a lose lose situation for Oscar. Same for Floyd!)

BUT

you are talking about Marquez who fought only twice at 135, never at 140 and never at 147
BUT you want us to forget about that and just consider that he was a top P4P?

That is ridiculous and has NOTHING to do with other fighter's accomplishments. Floyd vs Marquez was embarrassing no matter how high Marquez was rated.

Even Floyd fans say that if Manny vs Marquez fight at 140+, Marquez would not be effective ....

Even Floyd said AFTER being criticized, "oh, it was just a tune-up fight" .... see!!!

If there were no In-between Super and Junior Weight classes, jumping from 135 to 147 would be nothing.

You forget that Middleweights used to fight Heavyweights in the old days, coming in at 180 pounds for a Heavyweight Title Opportunity.

The fact of the matter is, he fought a credible guy who was The Lightweight Champion, who was 5'7 and his main attribute was his TECHNICAL BOXING SKILLS, not size.

He caught Floyd with some good accurate shots in that fight but not nearly enough, Floyd outboxed him and showed him the difference in skill. JMM knew that night, that he never fought a guy of Floyd's BOXING SKILLS before.

While Floyd shouldn't get huge props for that victory, it shouldn't be ridiculed and dismissed completely either like some of you do. He dominated a man who has never been dominated before (A LightWeight Champion and P4P Elite at that), and that counts for something.

[Fox McCloud]

I disagree.

I think mentally Nas was done because he was obsessed with being undefeated. So was Trinidad.

The fact that there were fighters out there that they knew were superior to them, ate away at them.

It wasn't a bad beating, but a dominant one. He had no grounds for a rematch nor did he really want one. Neither did Tito.

You don't think his comeback against Jay-Z proved he had more to give?

[cupocity303]

You don't think his comeback against Jay-Z proved he had more to give?

In BS's Lounge terms, Nas and Jay are nothing but puppets of the NWO Illuminati.

[loui_ludwig]

And Floyd still avoided Williams, Margarito, and Cotto.

JMM made his P4P rankings fighting at 126-135.

Hatton's best was at 140. Ricky wasn't impressive in his first ww fight against Collazo. He even said that the 147 opponents might be to heavy for him. Hence he went back to his best weight of 140.

Mosley, yeah he was @1 at ww but hasn't fought in more than a year and trained almost trained 4 months before fighting Floyd. It showed after the 2nd round.

[ADP02]

If there were no In-between Super and Junior Weight classes, jumping from 135 to 147 would be nothing.

You forget that Middleweights used to fight Heavyweights in the old days, coming in at 180 pounds for a Heavyweight Title Opportunity.

The fact of the matter is, he fought a credible guy who was The Lightweight Champion, who was 5'7 and his main attribute was his TECHNICAL BOXING SKILLS, not size.

He caught Floyd with some good accurate shots in that fight but not nearly enough, Floyd outboxed him and showed him the difference in skill. JMM knew that night, that he never fought a guy of Floyd's BOXING SKILLS before.

While Floyd shouldn't get huge props for that victory, it shouldn't be ridiculed and dismissed completely either like some of you do. He dominated a man who has never been dominated before (A LightWeight Champion and P4P Elite at that), and that counts for something.

Sorry but you can't go back in time and compare it to today. Boxing has made some fine tuning for a reason. There could be more fine tuning but that's for another thread. Even the fighters are different now ..... Imagine, just go back and you can see HW at 180s and be champ.

Again, you don't even have to go that far back to see guys move up and do it BUT the praise is on him going up for one. Every fight needs to be looked at individually BUT going up 2 almost 3 divisions to fight is ALWAYS questioned (does it make sense?).

Marquez even had to put up the fight of his life to beat a Juan Diaz at 135. Then you expect us to think that he would make for a good fight at 147 against Floyd? Floyd made it look easy even after a long layoff. If Floyd hadn't had that long layoff, it could have been worse for Marquez. It looked like Floyd was just swatting flies when he was being hit. Nothing Marquez throw was really damaging. The small Marquez brought nothing with him at 147. His technical skills was being over-powered by a bigger man at his (Floyd's)weight division.

What did Marquez do after fighting Floyd? Did he say, OK, now I proved it. I can stick at 147. No, he went back to 135 and stayed there. The only way he will move back to 147 is for a big pay day.

[V.WEBB]

And Floyd still avoided Williams, Margarito, and Cotto.

JMM made his P4P rankings fighting at 126-135.

Hatton's best was at 140. Ricky wasn't impressive in his first ww fight against Collazo. He even said that the 147 opponents might be to heavy for him. Hence he went back to his best weight of 140.

Mosley, yeah he was @1 at ww but hasn't fought in more than a year and trained almost trained 4 months before fighting Floyd. It showed after the 2nd round.

Did it ever occur to you that maybe his opponent was actually...GOOD? I mean Collazo was a tough, southpaw. He wasn't a push over. His trainer at the time ALSO said that they didn't prepare correctly for Collazo.

[STRUGG]

LOL.............................gatti and a blown up marquez........................baldo.......LOL

[fcastro1]

get of mayweathers ballsack. Instead of praising him you guys should be ashamed of what he has done in the prime of his career. What kind of great takes vacations during their peak.